thelmia

Please look for the real time multiplayer lag! It's killing the game for me and my guild! Sorry to be a broken record but this will fix the game for us.

Uh... I'd have to say not yet. There's a lot of little bugs that need to be dealt with, and some people have very large game-killing problems. I can't play multiplayer without bad lag, for instance. It'll be a really good game, but it's not there yet.

BMPs seem to do either autocannon or ATGM/coax. They switch from one to the other. If they engage the same target for a while you'll see them switch. I'm a big BMP fan (I'd really like the BMP-3 someday) and I fool with them a lot.

LOL. I get that, too. Pretty funny the first time.

Yeah, I do real time. You can pause it any time you want. It's like going from the early XCOM games to the newer real-time-with-pause like UFO Afterlight. You can't pause in multiplayer, but that's a different game. For some reason Javelins are much more effective if you hit the first floor. They kill a lot more bad guys, even ones on the third floor.

I'd love for multiplayer lag to be fixed as well. Not sure what's going on there. I've got two NVIDIA 7800GTX SLI cards, and the framerate isn't what I'd expect. The main thing is the lag. I don't see how the graphics drivers would effect that, but I'm not an expert.

Use Javelins to area fire buildings. Hit the first floor where possible. A big part of the third 'F' is your infantry's ATGMs. Go for Syrian total surrender. Kill them all and you don't have to take everything.

Damnit, I have to go pick up my friends for GURPS. I'd love to at some later date. Maybe we can troubleshoot a bit.

Yeah, that's what makes me wonder. If I have an isolated problem, it might be easier to fix. I'd love to have some easy way to fix it on my end so I can play. If it needs a patch, then I'm probably not a rare case. Not everyone who buys the game (or will buy it) posts on the forums.

Ha! The central paradox of forums. I complain in the hope my problems get fixed. I want this to be a great game. Posts about how it's all DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED aren't productive.

I'm wondering if it has something to do with version- I'm running Gamersgate 1.02, some of my friends are running Battlefront, and others Gamersgate as well. Do different versions have trouble talking? Or is a particular version flawed?

Thank you for aknowledging it. I've been posting in tech support for a week, and 2 other people there had the same problem. I guess it's not pervasive.

Fix my multiplayer and it's 8/10. Fix the bugs and it's 9/10. Add lots of content and it's a 10. Right now it's about a 5. I can't play with anyone. It's not as much fun as Steel Panthers 2.

I can't play multiplayer, so it's a bad release as far as I'm concerned. I'll have no one to play with because my group is sick of fighting lag and bugs. I automatically bought this game on the basis of the last 3 games, which I bought at realease for full price. I won't do that again. I've already told everyone else in the guild not to buy it because they'll have no one to play with, either. I feel kind of bad because I encouraged 4 people to get it and now they're all stuck with a dud. We can't play with each other, which sucks.

I'm just angry that I can't play multiplayer without doing PBEM. It's cumbersome and time consuming. The Real Time multiplayer mode DOES NOT WORK. I keep asking around, everyone I talk to (about a half dozen people so far) seems to have the same problem, and yet there's almost nothing on the forum. If WEGO was multiplayer like the old games, I'd be fine. But if RT is here, it should work. I don't play these games to fight an AI. All the other bugs are annoying, but core functionality in a multiplayer game is important! Why bother making real time if it lags terribly? And it does for me EVERY SINGLE GAME. Everyone I play with lags out when they play other people. Is this rare? Or does no one play real time multiplayer? Is it something that's easy to fix on my end? Or is the netcode really that bad? I'm starting to think that the problem isn't going to get solved and I should just go do something else. I've posted a bunch about it and I don't want to bother the forum any more. If I had to do it over I wouldn't buy the game in its current form. I won't buy any future title, either, until I get a chance to read a lot of good reviews. This is frustrating.

Is there any way to fix this? I'm really tired of trying to play this game if this isn't going to get fixed. It's just not fun anymore. It's not real- time multiplayer if one side is so lagged that they can't play! Is this a rare problem or is it being ignored? For the record, CMSF v 1.02,Pentium 830d 3 ghz, 2 NVIDIA 7800GTX SLI (latest driver and forceware),2 gigs RAM, Windows XP. I've got a cable broadband connection and I play all kinds of internet games without any trouble. I've tried turning off my firewall to no effect. The problem is that the guest lags by enough to affect gameplay in lots of strange ways- can't unload infantry, can't fire javelins, command lag, stuff disappears...

Look to torrent CMAK. It's easy. Cracked versions everywhere. It's hard to compete with free. There's a torrent of CMSF already.

Still terrible lag with 1.02...

The gamersgate patch 1.02 is out now.

Heh. Some of my best opponents for CMAK and CMSF are "FPS teenage crowd." It's a video game, and there's nothing about CMSF that keeps young people from learning it. And being good at it. An adult with a military background (say) may have an early advantage since he has a better idea about realistic ranges and weapon capabilities. But the kids figure that out pretty quickly...

Originally posted by jomni: Yes, otherwise I don't have enough attention to go around.

The volunteer force does pay better, but the decisive factor is people making it a career rather than an unpleasant couple of years that must be endured. Soldiering is a trade, and professionals will do better than some 18-20 year olds randomly drafted and given some rudimentary training. It's the same as anything else- computer programming, car repair, whatever. Just putting on the clothes and tools doesn't magically give you skills. Well- trained soldiers are not supermen, but if they didn't have an advantage in a tactical simulation there would be something wrong. The disparity in leadership and training should be apparent. And it is, which is exactly what we'd expect. If we had the US Army vs. the British Army or the Budeswehr, then it would be practically even. As the player, your own tactical leadership is a much larger variable than the quality of your units. I have been drubbed by Syrians, and have done well with them. Making the enemy fight on your terms is the principle that applies here. [ August 14, 2007, 02:55 AM: Message edited by: thelmia ]

Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Why have airstrikes if the enemy is going to cruise all over the map? I crashed the first time, so the next I planned an airstrike and managed to wipe out the entire Mech. Infantry platoon with one hit. Lucky. I was out of Javelins and TOWs. There's also the mission that can be won almost solely by shelling the town...

US infantry are better, because they are trained to a US standard. The Syrians are trained to a much lower standard, 'Special Forces' or no. There's no worldwide standard for infantry training. The Iraqi "Republican Guard" were better than the Iraqi Army, but far inferior to normal US Army units. Just having a fancy name does not an elite force make Now, I expect they would fight and die bravely. It's just that Syria does not have the resources, leadership, or tradition to put up an infantry force equal to the US Army in quality. Hence the sneaky tactics, IEDs, etc. That's a rational response to their inequality in training and leadership.

RT is fine for me. I'm used to it anyway- I play a lot of fast games. Single player is pretty chill because of pause. Multiplayer doesn't work with large battles so that's moot. On a small multiplayer game it's quite pleasant. On all the CM games I play mostly zoomed out, which means I miss most of the details. But I have a far better view of what is going on.