Kobal2

Depends, your squadron might be refitted with new models for example. Or *you* might get transferred to another unit for one reason or the other (like, being sent to the East Front for having made derogatory comments about your Obersturmvolksbahnpanzerführer-Leutnant or sumtink )

Sergei makes a good point mentionning that T34 hulls were the same all throughout the war, which means that even though they were nearly unbreachable in 41, by 43-44 they were pretty much tin cans, with the German guns becoming more and more deadly.

Happens Every single battle is FUBAR at some point for one side or the other. I once had an ennemy sniper kill every tank commander I had - 8 shots, 8 kills. I was...shall we say...less than amused. In fact, the little bugger got two demo charges (or was it grenade bundles ? Can't remember) chucked at him when I finally found him. Sniper Smithereens.

@Panther Commander : hmmm yes, now that you mention it... But did they paint over the kill marks on the old plane, in the odd case that it's still serviceable and given to another crew ?

Oh HAR, HAR, HAR. And HAR again (that one for Seenachai's pirate thingy). Been eating clowns, have you ? And why would I bother staying here if I wanted *people* to take interest in me, when it's abundantly clear that everyone here would have trouble competing with bacteriae - mentally AND physically ? I thought it was obvious that my presence here is purely ethnological. Study errors of Nature and whatnot. That, and hope Lars sends his turn before the Sun meltdowns.

Strange - in one of the last games I played I had a platoon of StuG IIIs (can't remember the exact model though - date was May 44). Out of the three, one got his gun damaged by the first shot of a 6pdr ATG (then a second hit went through and killed one of the crew before the AFV could retreat behind a cloud of smoke). Second one got it's TC killed through the front hull by a Sherman III (though after that there was one shattered shell, one deflection and one spalling), retreated in panic, spend 4 turns recovering, then managed to flank shoot the Sherman while he was duking it out with a panzershreck team - still took 2 penetrations to knock it out. Last one was used against light infantry only, but still managed to lose it's commander somehow (I didn't pay much attention to that side of the map at the time, but the only ennemy unit present where the TC was killed was a PIAT crew, I assume they did it).

I seem to remember that in the navy and air forces, kill marks belong to the ship/plane, not to the crew/pilot. I assume it's the same with tanks/guns.

Or rather, the no man's land thread

@Arthur : NUTS !

@Arthur : NUTS !

Agreed on the fact that the TW engine wouldn't work at all in a modern setting, although I think it could probably be OK for Napoleonic or US Independance / Secession War settings. Of course, they'd need to add a "Messieurs les anglais, tirez les premiers !" order .

I like company-size up to half-batallion infantry forces (with or without transports), up to 2 platoons of AFVs in support, tanks, SP Arty, TDs, anything goes. Arty I don't mind much - I always like to have at least one 81mm mortar spotter for quick smoke, but beyond that anything is good, from total lack thereof to twenty 266mm spotters. Same goes for airplanes - I don't mind not having any, but a couple are OK. I don't like all-armor battles though (probably because I suck at them). I guess those forces would be in the 800-2000 points range. Size of the map doesn't matter much as long as there's time enough for fancy plans.

Judging by the casualties you can get in a mere 30 minutes battle (last battle I played, Petrarcholi Ridge, ended with the yanks routing all across the map, leaving 110 men behind, plus all of their tanks), I don't think such a battle would be that interesting. Unless you enjoy having a bunch of 2-3 men squads sniping at each other for 20 turns

@Joe Shaw : Ah, but that would be the trouble with a-serfing a bloody French in the first place. Even those holier-than-thou Brits quickly understood than, on the whole, it was not worth the effort. After a 100 years war of course, but that's just because your average Brit is not the quickest of cats, and that's puting it mildly. I presume it has something to do with the teeth, somehow. (PS : Blaggard, as far as I know, is a contraction of blackguard. Ha ! How's that for slang, YK2 ?) @Boo : mind you, a braille screen would be a boon with those...hum...other sites you visit.

Boo ? Out with you. OUT ! That joke wasn't even worth the energy my screen had to spend to display it.

SEMANTICS WON'T FOOL ME, YOU INBRED MAGGOT !

It's the "the Yanks are coming...no ! THE YANKS ARE HERE !" part that did it. Suggests that they haven't been there long enough for the dust to settle, y'ken ? SO WORK ON IT, YOU BLAGGARD ! Anyhow, since failure on my part would *obviously* not be my fault or responsibility whatsoever, it's got to be either your ineptitude at building the most basic scenario, or Lars' mind-numbing, morals-gutting treachery and/or luck. I assumed it was both, from the very beginning, as a basic hypothesis. The details of the battle will undoubtedly prove me right. Oh, and I wouldn't trust Lars for a quart of whiskey. The worm is obviously of the gamey, weak-principled and prone to betrayal sort. He's playing the YANKS, for chris'sake !

(there he goes again... Don't mind him, really, he's just a clockwork of some kind, mindlessly repeating what he was brainwashed/programmed to say. Kick'im in the nadgers for all you're worth, tell him to sod the feck off, and you'll be right as rain.)

(to be honest, I didn't expect *any* mine, what with Joe's briefing mentioning the Yanks just arrived and whatnot. But y'know, they might be mines from 15th century wars, so that makes it A-OK, doesn't it. Monkeys, all of you.) [ June 08, 2004, 03:09 PM: Message edited by: Kobal2 ]

(the best question would not be "what's the difference between Peng and Waffle ?", but "what the *point* ?")

Not much ground for bile-spewing really - other than the fact that he sends turn on an geological time basis, uses arty little better than your average roadkill and HAPHASARDLY PLANTS MINES IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, all things that've already been discussed. I've yet to see a hair of the coward. Doubtless his whole force has already split. Who wouldn't, with a commander like him ?

(WC ?) Actually, cover and concealment is something to be dealt with in TW, as forests will provide cover from archer/crossbow fire, cavalry is very vulnerable in trees, archers fire farther from hilltop etc... Also, the combat calculations of TW are quite complex since they take into account terrain and/or weather (units tire faster if heavily armored in North Africa deserts for example, units charging uphill are disadvantaged etc...), individual prowess (though moralewise it's the unit as a whole that is concerned (they will either all flee or all stand), each man in a unit fights independantly, and each man has a hidden "value"), the effect of morale as Ants said, the effect of flanking and/or rear attack, and the actual weapons they use - some units are killers when they charge and in the initial contact (such as heavy knights, or Scot Clansmen with their claymores) , but will progressively lose their efficiency when bogged down in a melee, some weapons are better against heavily armored ennemies (axe-wielders for example), or against horses (pikemen spring to mind), some are better attacking, some are better defending etc... Quite complex, really. Of course, not as complex as CM, but still nothing to be sneezed at. I agree that splitting squads might be the way to go, though of course it would imply more micromanagement.

I think the limit of units on the board at the same time is 16 per side, though you may have 3-4 times that much in reinforcements.

You can either venture into the forgotten-by-God Peng thread, where you'll be thrashed, dissed, made fun of, ridiculed, patronized, beaten with a sackful of doorknobs, ordered to follow stupid rules and whatnots, to finally not have a game at all (or a game with Lars, which is quite the same, really). Or there's the Cheery Waffle thread, where they mostly talk about TNT. It's a matter of choosing between pest and cholera, truth be told. *** realizes something *** HEY ! HEY ! I'm not the last SSN anymore ! Champagne !

Oh yeah, that's true. On a PSW previously immobilized by mines. Medal-winning shot, really