Hortlund

Surprises through history #1 You want us to build WHAT? -Ancient Chinese construction engineer.

Actually it was two King Tigers in the last 4 seconds of the 3rd turn movie.

Actually it was two King Tigers in the last 4 seconds of the 3rd turn movie.

Well, I dont have much of a singing voice, but if you want I can break wind every time you reply to a post. I think it would be an appropriate fanfare.

Well, I dont have much of a singing voice, but if you want I can break wind every time you reply to a post. I think it would be an appropriate fanfare.

Real is making the best with what you have. Real is fighting and dying like a combatant. Real is playing through to the bitter end. Real is the lump of gristle between your ears that you pawn off as a brain. I imagine a wet, brown paper bag is also a significant obstacle to you? </font>

Real is making the best with what you have. Real is fighting and dying like a combatant. Real is playing through to the bitter end. Real is the lump of gristle between your ears that you pawn off as a brain. I imagine a wet, brown paper bag is also a significant obstacle to you? </font>

hehehe is this guy for real?

hehehe is this guy for real?

Oh...you mean the guts to stick it out in a 40+ turns CMBB PBEM game? Or the glory in taking your precious little pixeltruppen to another great victory that will echo through the annals of made up-history? Get real. [ April 21, 2003, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: Leutnant Hortlund ]

Oh...you mean the guts to stick it out in a 40+ turns CMBB PBEM game? Or the glory in taking your precious little pixeltruppen to another great victory that will echo through the annals of made up-history? Get real. [ April 21, 2003, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: Leutnant Hortlund ]

Yeah....like I'm going to spend 40-something turns trying to WALK a couple of decimated platoons through a gigantic map with no support aside from one halftrack, two trucks and two kubelwagons. [ April 21, 2003, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: Leutnant Hortlund ]

Yeah....like I'm going to spend 40-something turns trying to WALK a couple of decimated platoons through a gigantic map with no support aside from one halftrack, two trucks and two kubelwagons. [ April 21, 2003, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: Leutnant Hortlund ]

Open up your mailbox, and what do you see, a little turn of mayhem, coming from mee.. *singing* Yes, another glorious day here in Sweden. The weather is fine, the coffee is hot and so are..*hrm* never mind.

Open up your mailbox, and what do you see, a little turn of mayhem, coming from mee.. *singing* Yes, another glorious day here in Sweden. The weather is fine, the coffee is hot and so are..*hrm* never mind.

wow...simply gorgeous

Uh, no its not.

Uh, no its not.

Here you go...you know you want to. Sheep farmer tycoon

Here you go...you know you want to. Sheep farmer tycoon

muahahaha everyone owns me turns. Including MrSpkr and Noba. I had a date with that girl today btw. So you better start sending me turns really fast, or I'll occupy another page of this most golorious MBT with long rants about my love life.

muahahaha everyone owns me turns. Including MrSpkr and Noba. I had a date with that girl today btw. So you better start sending me turns really fast, or I'll occupy another page of this most golorious MBT with long rants about my love life.

It would be interesting to hear your source for this. Beevor, Ryan, Sennerteg, they all tell the same stories. Butchering of civilians, gang rapes, murder, torture. The scale of these crimes indicate that for your theory to be true, the entire soviet army who set foot on German soil between October 1944-May 1945 must have been temporarily out of control. These writers seem to argue that the Soviet soldiers could do pretty much what they pleased, and those Red Army officers that didnt take part in the atrocities, had no problem looking the other way. Well, there is a difference between the Einzatsgruppen and the general anti-partisan activities. While the Einzatsgruppen are in a league of their own when it comes to slaughtering civilians, regular WH and SS units did their fair share of atrocities too. The soviet atrocities stopped after the order from Stalin. I dont have the books in front of me right now, but I think it was... *sits and stare at the screen for a while, then gives up and walks into the other room to get the book* 15th May 1945. After that, soldiers of the Red Army caught raping or torturing or butchering or whatever were shot. Diciplin was restored immideately. Incidentally, the fact that the soviet raping, butchering and plundering stopped immideately after the stop-order gives a pretty clear indication as to how flawed the "Soviet atrocities were committed by troops temporarily out of control"-theory is. They were given free hands when they entered German soil. ALL the evidence speaks in that direction. Vae victis. Yes yes fine, if you want to argue over semantics we can do that. Its a bit distasteful though, in my humble opinion. Because it matters little to the victim wheter he/she is the victim of an industrialized process or the victim of an army on a killing spree. Moreover if you really really want to go down this lane, I'm going to claim that the soviet soldiers were BETTER than the Germans when it came to rape and plunder, while the Germans were BETTER at murdering and butchering...while the two armies were about even (or just as good if you want) at torturing eachother. But what is your point? The Germans killed more innocents, so therefore...what? "Quantitative and qualitative" what exactly do you mean with that? I understand quantitative, but what on earth do you mean by qualitative? What difference does it make how the criminals kill their victims? [ April 17, 2003, 07:51 PM: Message edited by: Leutnant Hortlund ]

Because it wouldn't be true. </font>

Well, there are degrees of everything of cource. And while "lick my eyeballs" might not be the kinkiest thing in the world, it sure ranks among the weirdest. I mean what could she possibly get out of some guy putting his tounge in her eye? Leaving that aside, because obviously she did get something out of having a guy stick his tounge in her eye, what about me...? I dont want to know what an eye tastes like, I dont want to know what it feels like, I dont want to know. Call me conservative, but thats me.