Phoenix

What? But wait!! I thought German tanks were INVINCIBLE!!!! BTS, somefink is WRONG!!

oops. [This message has been edited by Phoenix (edited 02-07-2001).]

Seems to have been answered by Charles some months back - "I won't say "never", but there are currently no plans for one." I read that as, "Maybe, when were done with CM2, the new CMII engine, CM3 AND CM4, Then maybe we'll look into it. In other words, there's no plans for one. Just my enterpretation.

Interested in picking up your used copy! LOL!!!!!! Stop it! Your killing me. Sell my copy of CM? Good one!!

Bzzzt. CM2 has nothing to do with the Eastern Front. CM2 is tentatively being called "Hamsters Ho!" Never mind all those who are sure to come and say I'm making it up. Im right. Ask Gunny.

Can this be done with CD writing software? [This message has been edited by Phoenix (edited 02-04-2001).]

I can see no point to this refueling thing. I quite literally leave my CM CD in the reader for weeks on end as it is. I play a game almost every day too. Just another thing BTS doesn't need to waste time on IMHO.

That's CM4. Loooooooong way from now.

It will not be in CM2. It is something they are hoping to do for CMII, which is the complete re-write of the game engine.

Steve said - Cavlary on the Eastern Front is a tough one for us. As Los pointed out, they were used fairly frequently in terms of number of times in battle. Overall, they weren't that common. Or more exactly, there are far more situations to simulate that did not involve cavalry forces than did. And for that reason mounted cavalry (as opposed to dismounted) is on the back burner. There is a LOT to do for the Eastern Front, and in the Big Picture™ mounted cavalry is down on the list of important things to do.

Sorry mate. You won't be seeing any of that. This is a very minor patch coming up. There are no new units or tiles being added to CM anymore.

Time for working on CM1 is over. Done. Finished. Man, always beating around the bush on this topic!! Sounds like the expansion pack will be out in a couple of weeks. That's how I read this vague comment. [This message has been edited by Phoenix (edited 01-31-2001).]

Oh ferrr crying out loud. I hardly pretend to speak for BTS. I happen to read what BTS posts. I relayed that to you. I even copied and pasted quotes from them about this topic into this thread so you could see what their plan is. You continue to dismiss even BTS's plans. Fine. You obviously know better. You've heard the last from me on this thread. I eagerly await the expansion pack that is sure to come out in 4 week. LOL!!

Yep, you make a stab at humor to defuse, and it flies right over the top. It was a joke Phoenix. We need more jokes! Reread it and figure out what else it could be. I read it three times to see if there was something I was missing. I couldn't see anything other than a blatent cheap shot. You may want to add a or a if you want to convey subtle humor next time. Obviously I can't pick up on it.

So you suddenly feel the need to take shots and me now too eh? What's the matter? The other threads not confrontational enough for you? Im very impressed, this adds a lot to the discussion. Cheers.

Infantry in CM don't run out of ammo as it is now. They go to the "low" setting. I don't see the problem right now with crews or spotters as it is now. They have virtually no combat ability as it is.

This really has no place on this board.

How many times does it have to be explained? Anything that will delay CM2 is not going to be undertaken at this point. And - Creating new vehicles creates a new problem for PBEM games that will open another can of worms. It's nice that you are so sure it will only take 1 month. But somehow I think BTS knows better. Oh, and no. Im not an East Front guy at all. Hell I don't know squat about the East front. I am enjoying the hell out of CM right now. I play just about every night. [This message has been edited by Phoenix (edited 01-30-2001).]

Don't get me wrong, I too would think it "cool" to have more vehicles, the M16 included. But you have to ask yourself......who would put this pack together? Charles is THE programmer. As in, the only one last I checked. And since BTS has decided to get moving on CM2 and has the schedule "locked down" they're not going to suddenly go off on a tangent to go research all these oddball vehicles and spend months completing it at the cost of pushing CM2 back. Just not gonna happen. They have a business plan for a reason. I am by no means a programmer, but it's my bet that an addon pack of vehicles is not something that they could just throw together in a month. Vehicles are hard coded into the engine. You can't just download an expansion pack and suddenly have them show up. Then you run into issues of PBEM problems. Some people would have these vehicles, others would not. I think you're really out on a limb here and aren't seeing the forest for the trees. Doing some kind of addon pack is going to delay CM2. Simple as that. And they're just not going to do this. You really need to let it go man! Well, I guess you could be like Gunny Bunny and continue to ask for something that BTS has said won't be done. But that's probably a bad idea.

No.

I think the point was he wanted it moved to the "Opponents Wanted Forum" and not here.

For what it's worth - Posted 1/10/01 by Steve. Yes, work on CMBO is basically done. We will keep an eye out for any serious bugs (not just "gee,I think this should be tweaked"), which we will fix, but other than that we are starting on CM2 very shortly. We are first going to figure out what exactly we are going to put into the thing, THEN we will actually start the coding and artwork.

Is there a definitive statement on why BTS won't come out with this one (and perhaps a few others) through a patch? Yes. And the answer is simply "CM2". That's what they are working on now and nothing else. Steve has said in several posts that CM is a finished product. It's DONE. Other than minor patches for tweaks there will be no more additions. My opinion: the M16 will not be 'discussed to death' until BTS produces the goods. Well, you can have whatever opinion you want, but it doesn't change the fact that they're not going to add it.

Better put a smiley in there or you're gonna get it.

Actually that's right in line with what Steve said in October. Yeah, Im keeping track on that stuff.