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Argie, Thanks, wasn't sure if Charles ever said that in public. Of course it is true, it is imbedded in the executable. From BTS: CM doesn't need this as all databases are closed off to the end user. There are MANY reasons for us doing it, most of which are technical. We don't have spreadsheet like data tables, so there is no easy way to edit numbers. Also John, I have worked with them since the CMBO Alpha, and do have an idea of what I am talking about. Oh, and i sent a note off to the BFC gang, and will send another message after they answer me. Rune

John, You mixed two things and I did understand, you didn't. The models of the tanks are most definitely hard coded. Only the bmp skins can be modified, not the model itself. They are made in a 3d program then converted into code that goes into the executable. The penetration forumla itself is hard coded into the executable. There are no table lookups for the armor penetration. As for the values of the tank's armor itself, that I am not sure. A string variable for each tank hard coded wouldn't be that hard to do. If an update needed to be made, one string would be changed. Rune

The Beta Room will not be opened. Rune

You are running the newer version of the nvidia drivers and they broke anti-aliasing. You can turn off AA or go back to an earlier version of the drivers. Rune

You can only create them in the setup part, once turns start, you cannot place them. Rune

John, Actually it makes a lot of sense. 1. The tank models themselves are and always have been hard coded.Only the skins that go over the models 2. The data is hard coded. The reason is that so many games didn't, and people would make things like a panzer IV with a 128mm gun. To keep the game playable over the pbem and tcp/ip, the data was hard coded. It makes sense to do it this way. Rune

Look here: http://www.battlefield.ru/is2_2.html Just look at the IS2, see the tanks in combat and see the TC's unbuttoned. Notice the DSK machine gun was used against infantry, hard to do that if buttoned. Look at some of the other in action photos and tanks, see the TC's unbuttoned. Photos, and veteran's telling how they fought unbuttoned, and memoirs are more then enough proof for me. Thanks to Valera and his wonderful site! Rune

Things to remember: The numbers lsited on the screen are exactly that, numbers listed. CMBB does NOT use tables, but uses a formula to figure out the penetration. So it MAY be just the screen is incorrect. However, to be sure, I just emailed the BFC folks so they can take a look to verify or not. Rune

I have an answer to that, once I get home from work, I will be sending you another historical battle, a German Bridgehead 2km deep but only 400 meters wide. You get to be assaulted from all sides. Enjoy it....[insert evil laugh here] Rune

Andreas is correct [and it pains me to admit that]. Several veterans mention that they went unbuttoned as much as possible, especially early war when radios were very rare. Hard to see or give flag signals when buttoned. Rune

There is no way with Windows NT 4.0 Rune

That is for the scope of the game. Rune

The demo has tcp/ip play. Rune

Gud, Where the confusion may come in is the Naval forces and their version of the gun did indeed use AP and Concrete rounds, however, the handbook on the kv-1 [according to valera's site] said their use was strictly prohibited. Trust me when I say we had some excellent sources on Russian weapons involved in the beta. Rune

Gud, Going to argue with you. According to Red Army Handbook, AND Valera's www.battlefield.ru, the KV-2 never had ap shells. It had HE and concrete busters. CORRECTION: They were NOT allowed to even use the concrete busters, strictly HE. A post from Valera "KV-2 did not have any armor-piercing ammo. Not at all!" Rune [ August 23, 2002, 12:35 PM: Message edited by: rune ]

The KV-2 did NOT have AP rounds. Rune

Isn't infinity minus 1 still infinity? Oh...you knew that Berli , Nevermind... Rune

Buzzsaw, Buzzsaw, Buzzsaw, You useless wanker. *Boot* , one does NOT fail a task set by his mentor. *Boot* Now, how am I suppose to make you a Squire *Boot* when you can do something as easy as the tasks I have given to you? *Boot* Now you have done it, I might have to agree with JoeBob and admit that you aren't *Boot* Squire material. I will give you *Boot* one chance to redeem yourself *Boot* in the eyes of the cesspool. You must defeat, and rather soundly, Terrence. *Boot* Maybe you can enlighten the young lad on taunting, instead of "Oh look, made up facts". That, or you can *Boot* be the puke bucket boy for Peng for the period of a month. That's a lot of alcohol I am talking about. *Boot* You can choose to become a SSN again. *Boot* Choose carefully.... Rune House of Rune

Due to the difference in design. How do I know? I am the one that did research for Teut and am in the manual. Rune

Well, I for one agree with Papa....going to Joebob is MUCH too easy on him. I say we give him to Berli , as I believe he has special places in hell for the likes of him. Terrence, oh Terrence, Croda is a knight, you are a SSN. Who do I believe? Whenever the light bulb comes on, let me know, I have a few years to wait...[perhaps the lad will NOW get the point of the MBT , to taunt, and play mayhaps? Rune

Yet, you managed to lose to Croda 9 times in a row? I haven't seen bad play like that since....errr.....well....hmm....Marlow did better.....Buzzsaw is doing better, hell, even Elvis did better...I'll have to get back to you if I can find someone that did worse. Berli, did you have anyone you brought up that sucks as bad as Terrence? Urban Myth, No kidding. In case you missed the POINT of the MBT , it is NOT facts, if you want that, going argue the mantlet dimensions of the uberkampwagonkitchensink mit, err, with the grogs on the outer boards. No, it is the TAUNT that counts. Notice, that scum sucking lawyer....errr.....Marlow got the point and accepted the challenge. This is what seperates the upper life forms from the amoebas like yourself. Maybe some day you will evolve, but my hopes aren't on it. Marlow, I will warn you to do a QB, as I have played all the scenarios and then some. Oh Look, I made some as well as Berli and Germanboy [i refuse to use his other handle here in the MBT ] I do, however, prefer tcp/ip if you can get off the porn sites long enough. *Sniff* , it is so nice to see the young ones you've trained develop into something evil. Nothing more evil then a lawyer... So, Terrence, it is with the upmost contempt, and with as much vile as I can possibly come up with [which is a lot if you played any of my scenarios], that I tell you to SOD OFF Rune A semi-old one yet Senior Kniggett And yet, compared to YOU our intellects, or particularly mine, stand forth like a grand edifice. I am a great blazing sun of knowlege and perception, compared to which the tiny flickering match of your mind is a pale weak thing ineed. To put it more vulgarly, lackwit, none of these lawsuits are true, and none of these people are real. Toddle off back to the sandpit.</font>

To the SSNs that visit this MBT. I present my case: The "Stella" awards rank up there with the Darwin awards. Stella Liebeck is the 81 year old lady who spilled coffee on herself and sued McDonalds. This case inspired an annual award - The "Stella" Award - for the most frivolous lawsuit in the U.S. Following are this year's candidates: 1. January 2000: Kathleen Robertson of Austin Texas was awarded $780,000 by a jury of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were understandably surprised at the verdict, considering the misbehaving little brat was Ms.Robertson's son. 2. June 1998: A 19 year old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr.Truman apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the car, when He was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps. 3. October 1998: A Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania was leaving a house he had just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get the garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was malfunctioning. He couldn't re-enter the house because the door connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The family was on vacation. r.Dickson found himself locked in the garage for eight days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found, and a large bag of dry dog food.He sued the homeowner's insurance claiming the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury agreed to the tune of half a million dollars. 4. October 1999: Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas was awarded $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door neighbor's beagle. The beagle was on a chain in it's owner's fenced-in yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog might have been just a little provoked at! the time by Mr. Williams who was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun. 5. May 2000: A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of Lancaster,Pennsylvania $113,500 after she slipped on a soft drink and broke her coccyx. The beverage was on the floor because Ms. Carson threw it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument. 6. December 1997: Kara Walton of Claymont, Delaware successfully sued the owner of a nightclub in a neighboring city when she fell from the bathroom window to the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This occurred while Ms.Walton was trying to sneak through the window in the ladies room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 and dental expenses. And the winner is: Mr. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City. In November 2000 Mr. Grazinski purchased a brand new 32 foot Winnebago motor home. On his first trip home, having joined the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70mph and calmly left the drivers seat to go into the back and make himself a cup of coffee. Not surprisingly the Winnie left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the handbook that he couldn't actually do this. He was awarded $1,750,000 plus a new Winnie. (Winnebago actually changed their handbooks on the basis of this court case, just in case there are any other complete morons buying their vehicles) What is the point here you ask? That these people compared to you, the SSN, are Einsteins. It also marks why I hate Lawyer and Marlow, and will put either on my List for CM:BB. Rune

Peng could never make it this far sober.... Rune

is it night? Maybe you can see that far barely and the building is just out of sight? Is it foggy? What time of the day is it, what is the weather? Rune

Well just got home last night and sent a couple emails. Now after some strange custom called sleep. posting here. First, thanks to the gang from Ft. Knox. Was a wonderful trip and seeing the back lots was amazing. My kids are still talking about their favorite tanks. So to Chris, Jeff and Doug, many many thanks. Second, will send my pictures to Matt later today. I have yet another soccer meeting to go to today, and will try to get them to Matt this afternoon. After seeing personally the amount of tanks that had gun damage, I will never complain about it again. Got some great photos of gun damaged tanks. Third, to everyone else that attended, tanks...err...thanks! From the amount of drool that had to be wiped from the floors, will assume you were impressed. Last, Was a pleasure meeting everyone, yesm even you Harv. In just playing around with the editor, we made a map of 12 300mm rocket spotters vs a battalion of Russian infantry. The spotters won big with prep bombardment, a whopping 10 men survived on the Russian side. SO again, thanks to the Army and the Patton Museum, and the folks that took their days off to take care of us. Rune