Other Means Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 On smoke, don't drop it where you're crossing but where the enemy is. OR behind the front line of the enemy to isolate them. Otherwise when your men come out the other side they meet unsuppressed defenders while they're isolated from their own support. Not pretty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellinger327 Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 All good comments, can't thank everyone enough. If your patience will allow- the following quote is interesting and I have a short question regarding it... The missing ingredient -- at least for me -- was having the squad(s) "shoot from the hip" as they advance. Bob How do I go about having my squads 'shoot from the hip' when advancing? I assume the 'assault' button? But I thought that was, one team from a squad moves (seems like they are on 'fast') to said waypoint while the remainder of the squad remains stationary to provide overwatch/ suppressing fire. And then the further most team stops at said waypoint provides cover and the remainder of the squad towards the rear 'bound' forward, etc. and it carries on? When I've ordered 'quick' to X point, I've never seen the men 'shoot from the hip'...? I have seen one or two stop and take some pot-shots at the enemy. I've just never really seen an action where a squad is 'quicking' to a waypoint and silmutaneously firing on-the-run. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agua Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Area target during a movement order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 On smoke, don't drop it where you're crossing but where the enemy is. OR behind the front line of the enemy to isolate them. Otherwise when your men come out the other side they meet unsuppressed defenders while they're isolated from their own support. Not pretty. And give a thought to which way the wind, if any, is blowing. I try to drop the smoke just a little upwind of the enemy positions and let it drift down on them just as it is reaching full bloom. Oh, and BTW, the smoke fired by the American armor is WP, so firing it directly on the German positions might also have a useful demoralizing effect. I don't know for certain as I haven't tried that. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellinger327 Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 Thanks Agua... I should have thought of that lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnart Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 "Assault" command is what I use if no smoke avaiable. If with smoke, then "Quick" is best I think. Whith smoke always remember to check wind direction first. I have found this this can make or break the use of smoke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Savage Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I use FAST command to cross open as fast as possible. But you really need smoke or good suppressing fire to keep enemy heads down. Splitting squads is also good and remember to send small SCOUT FORCE before main forces. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogsfriend Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Regarding the dropping of WP smoke directly on the enemy... I've not tried that specifically, but when firing my own misdirected (poor los to target) 75mm smoke barrage, the rounds started falling right on my forming up units and then proceeded to walk all over my scattering troops. The casualties were horrendous. One squad reduced to a single man and several others decimated. Approx 30 men lost in all. Needless to say, I'm now much more carefull about getting a good line of sight to the target area and the company commander who directed this massacre has now been sent to guard my lorry park and think about what he's done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomApple Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I don't want to give out the campaing I'm playing but it should probably be pretty obvious. Plz do give it out I'd like to aim a game to this mission to give a try 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Thanks Agua... I should have thought of that lol. IME, troops on Quick don't fire enough while moving to have an appreciable effect on the enemy you're hoping to suppress. Giving Pauses at waypoints for 10s or so will give them chance to cause some suppression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindry69 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 This thread should be stickied somewhere as per CMSF. I found moving machine gun squads forward with the assult and deploying part way to the objective can help a lot with supression fire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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