MikeyD Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 I'm slightly on the fence on this. I love playing very early war in CMBB. In CMAK I like the looks of the early Brit stuff but I do miss not having a decent HE round. Once the Grant and PzIV F2 (special) finally show up its fun-fun-fun! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radetzky Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 regarding gameplay, the good thing about early war engagements is the fact that the astonishing amount of combat engineers used to be seen in h2h battles shouldn't be de rigeur with the humble commander any more. these troops weren't trained and equipped to do the shooting on the frontline but to desttroy pillboxes, bridge rivers, lay or search for mines etc. the germans eg used them as regular infantry only in case of emergency. they were regarded as being trained specialists and thus far too valuable to waste in a everyday firefight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grach Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 I love early war. But I miss my T-35... Maybe CM2... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 My name is Sequoia and I admit I am a early war fanboy. I admit I am powerless over my early war fanboydom and that my life is unmanageable. Think of it. For the first time you could shoot at Norwegians and Dutchmen! How can anyone resist such a thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Yes, shooting Most Things Norwegian definately has an appeal in it... not that destroying Most Things Dutch would sound that bad, either... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Well, in my opinion, Early War would have to include the Winter War, so you, Sergei, would have another chance to play the Uber-Finns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermitage Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Oh, Lordy, you've prompted me to finally register and comment. (By the way, people, thanks to all of you for the years of entertaining and educational commentary on CM*.) Let me add my enthusiastic support to any trend toward early war scenarios. As an ex-PanzerBlitz addict (recovered, until CMBO came along) I was fascinated with the CMBO engine (what realism!) but it was the advent of CMBB that really hooked me. BT-7s! Pz Kpfw II as a serious threat on the battlefield! Oh, the excitement! It must be the fascination of the more "up close and personal" aspect of the thinner armor, smaller gun, stronger relative strength of infantry weapons that makes it so exciting for me. And the swarms of inexpensive tanks one can buy. (Maybe I'm just cheap.) I positively drool over the prospect of having France, 1940 available in the next iteration of CM. More Spanish Civil War scenarios; oh, yes, please! A good model of Khalkhin-gol! Dare I hope for the inclusion of the Russo-Polish fighting ca. 1920? I will continue to dream. As it has already been said: early war, a contest to the end. Late war--if you've lost your armor, game over. I love it when the ATR teams are a decisive factor! Solidarity with the revolution in early war scenarios! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon DC Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Early war? Hell yeah! I love the early war. Nothing is more fun than a slugfest of T-26s vs. PzIIs. I am always amazed at how many holes you can punch in those things. This is about the only time the tank platoon commanders moral bonus comes into play. Mid to late -- the tank crews never freak out and panic or rout. It is funny to see tank crews drive around and do their own version of the "dance of death." Yes... it is also fun to use ATRs as a legitimate tank menace. Here's a scenario I did featuring about 100 Russian tin cans. It's an op... but if you are not into ops, you can just play the first one or two battles. To be played as Germans. Starts off with some Pzr IIIs advancing against a storm of tin cans. Sorry -- I added some T-34s later in the op. :mad: ehehe. Combined Arms, South to Kiev Here is another good one I played recently (George Mc's). Not many tanks, but I remember it as a down to the wire battle. I drove a Pz II through the woods and attacked two T-26s from the side at about 30 to 40m... and lived! TBP No. 2 Point Platoon (These are at the proving grounds. George's might be at TSD, but mine is not.) Anyone ever see an old Clark Gable film... set in China I guess around 1941. He sets up an ambush of a small column of Chinese tin cans on a mountain road. Being a CM junkie... I've always wondered what type of tanks they were. If it was Hollywood, they could be anyones. They didn't look familiar. Don't know the name of the flick. Keep plugging away! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ExplodingMonkey Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 ATRs rock. I like using them even in mid war scenarios. Nothing makes your opponent feel the pain like an immobile kill on his only STuG from an ATR team! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPK Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 I'm currently playing (PBEM) "Ghosts of Napoleon" which is a 10-battle assault op set July 1941,as the Germans try to cross the Berezina. It is a classic Matchbox Tank Battle...in the forest. as the Sovs,you get the lot: T38's, T40's, BT's of all types... all the T-26 series...and mostly Green and Conscript, making it even crazier... Turns out the Sdkfz 223 is one of the giants of the battlefield... Highly recommended (so far-I'm in Battle #2). I believe I got it from the Scenario Depot, but I can email to anyone who wants it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEY Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 I not only like playing early war battles, but I take it one step further by playing something different then german versus russian all the time. And that is playing the different axis minor countries versus the russians at least 50% of the time, throughout the war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 An Early War TCP IP / Quick play Tourney has just opened for business. All Early War Fan's welcome... H 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul AU Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 I vote 'yeah' for early war, for all of the reasons mentioned. Primarily, because it tends to be less "all of your eggs in one basket". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Ooops! Bad wordplay on my part up above: "In CMAK I like the looks of the early Brit stuff but I do miss not having a decent HE round." What I mean was I miss HAVING a decent HE round. As an early Brit in CMAK I can't miss NOT having a HE round because NOT having the round is exactly what I've got! That should clarify things 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konstantine Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Bump. Looking for more early war CMBB scenario recommendations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Early war in CMBB certainly has appeal but I really prefer the guts of 1944, when the big cats start to show up. Nothing better than a tank fest in my opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 The water jacketed U.S. .50 caliber MG, most often seen in Pearl Harbor footage, was originally conceived as a dual purpose weapon: antitank and antiaircraft. I've seen the rollout newsreel. SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!! * * * * * * * * * If you want to see a mix of the early war and mid war stuff in action, play Trappenjagd. Very hairy, and the Panzer II features prominently. Hard to hit and a nasty autocannon! End Spoiler Regards, John Kettler [ June 02, 2008, 03:35 AM: Message edited by: John Kettler ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Originally posted by konstantine: Bump. Looking for more early war CMBB scenario recommendations. Over at the depot I have a number of early war, especially 1940 French vs German plus a 22 scenario campaign (1st Panzer Division) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Hermitage, Welcome aboard! If you like Khalkin Gol, then I believe you'll find this of interest. I own it in printed form and found it a wonderful read. Lots of juicy CM chrome! Nomonhan: Japanese-Soviet Tactical Combat in 1939 http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/drea2/drea2.asp Offhand, I see no reason why something pretty good couldn't be done using CMBB, with the Italians as the Japanese. The squads are large, both sides (Italians and Japanese) have light mortars, weakly armored AFVs. etc. Also, a great deal of work has already been done modding CMBB for the Spanish Civil War. Back then, a T-26 was state of the art. Even had a photoelectric gun stabilizer! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermitage Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 John Kettler, Thanks for the welcome! (What's a few years, in cyberspace?) The link is brilliant! More good information on the Nomonhan incident than I've seen before; I bookmarked that and am devouring it in manageable bites. I'm glad this topic was bumped back up -- I'm still most interested in early war fights, and CMBB models that better than anything else. I have seen some of the scenarios on the Spanish Civil War and am really fascinated by them. konstantine-- once early war scenario that I thought was huge fun is "HSG AM First Clash"; I found it at the Scenario Depot II. It's armor only, Romanians vs. Russians in July, 1941. A bit simplistic, maybe; I was using it as an introductory game with a new CM player. I gave him the Russians with 100% force bonus, so he slaughtered me, but there was lots of shooting and burning tanks at the end. Very enjoyable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermitage Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Hans -- I see your scenarios at the Depot; the ones marked SCW would be Spanish Civil War, of course. Is there any other abbreviation that would denote one of your early war scenarios? (Particularly the French vs. German) I hate to admit that I'm too lazy to click on each scenario listing to get to the summary -- it's just that you've done so many! (Thanks, by the way, for all the work you've put into making scenarios!) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Hermitage, I blame a "furry" brain for that lapse on my part, but you're still welcome. Glad you found the CARL paper valuable and fun! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konstantine Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Originally posted by Hans: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by konstantine: Bump. Looking for more early war CMBB scenario recommendations. Over at the depot I have a number of early war, especially 1940 French vs German plus a 22 scenario campaign (1st Panzer Division) </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon DC Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hello -- Updating the link for "South to Kiev" posted years ago. Now over at TSD: Combined Arms, South to Kiev Here's another one with early war tanks. Since the AI is attacking, you should turn up the experience level for this one. Tin Can Alley cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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