Sixxkiller Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Enough with this already. BFC isnt trying to make some PC civil rights statement or have you idiots stirring up a debate that has absolutely nothing to do with this or any other BFC game. The color of someones skin has nothing to do with ability on a real or on a virtual battlefield. Never has and never will. So if you are really bothered by the color of the troops then you may mod away. You want Max Klinger running around the map in pink chiffon, mod away. You want BFC to incorporate troops of color, play CMSF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSwas71331 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 "In Defense of Internment: The Case for 'Racial Profiling' in World War II and the War on Terror is a 2004 book written by conservative American political commentator Michelle Malkin. Malkin defends the United States government's internment of Japanese Americans in relocation camps during World War II and racial profiling of Arabs during the post-2001 War on Terror. The book's message has been condemned by Japanese American groups and civil rights advocates. Its scholarship has been criticized by academics." I first read this book a few years ago, and I was impressed by Malkin's arguments and evidence. She provided sources for the historical information she cited, and the authors of the criticisms of her work I read couldn't be bothered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Oh, great. Let's intern all Arabs now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake51 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Hold on there. Are you saying that there was racism eg. in Germany at the time? :confused::confused: I hope you can prove such preposterous claims! Wasn't the Third Reich racist to its core? :confused: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Wasn't the Third Reich racist to its core? :confused: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany That was all a misunderstanding. In reality Hitler was a sweet old man... which is why people like to compare those that they admire to him. Eg. "Obama is the new Hitler!" means that someone really digs the man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake51 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 That was all a misunderstanding. In reality Hitler was a sweet old man... which is why people like to compare those that they admire to him. Eg. "Obama is the new Hitler!" means that someone really digs the man. Thanks. Missed the irony in your first post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Isn't that a very young Michelle Malkin in the photo? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 "In Defense of Internment: The Case for 'Racial Profiling' in World War II and the War on Terror is a 2004...... This thread has nothing to do with internment, but rather the service of African Americans in the US Army in WW2. I was wondering as well why it was that Afro-Americans served in segregated units but native Americans served in integrated units? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Isn't that a very young Michelle Malkin in the photo? Your right ! From a certain angle the child looks distinctly Filipino and the lad is a dead ringer for Obama 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 This thread has nothing to do with internment, but rather the service of African Americans in the US Army in WW2. I was wondering as well why it was that Afro-Americans served in segregated units but native Americans served in integrated units? It has to do with subtle differences in the contemporary historical American definition of racism. Blacks were originally brought to America as slaves and were subsequently regarded as lesser versions of humanity to be kept separated from whites, whereas native Americans were seen as some sort of aboriginal noble warriors, deserving of some respect, and who were traditionally integrated into standing armies as scouts and pickets because of their skills and warrior traditions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Your right ! From a certain angle the child looks distinctly Filipino and the lad is a dead ringer for Obama I thought Obama was the guy in the middle? :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 It has to do with subtle differences in the contemporary historical American definition of racism. Blacks were originally brought to America as slaves and were subsequently regarded as lesser versions of humanity to be kept separated from whites, whereas native Americans were seen as some sort of aboriginal noble warriors, deserving of some respect, and who were traditionally integrated into standing armies as scouts and pickets because of their skills and warrior traditions. Ok that is logical. So the segregation extended mainly from the "Jim Crow Laws" ? Is it the legacy of these laws that the US has been particularly outspoken on the race issue and especially so in regards of apartheid in South Africa? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Ok that is logical. So the segregation extended mainly from the "Jim Crow Laws" ? Is it the legacy of these laws that the US has been particularly outspoken on the race issue and especially so in regards of apartheid in South Africa? Sort of; it's more like someone saying "I fixed my halitosis, why can't you do the same?", while eating a limburger sandwich. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 How like Adolf to try to cop a feel of what appears to be a six year old girl. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 This thread has nothing to do with internment, but rather the service of African Americans in the US Army in WW2. I was wondering as well why it was that Afro-Americans served in segregated units but native Americans served in integrated units? Actually this thread started as a request to Mod non-white faces on the US troops in the Combat Mission Normandy game. These things always morph into an indictment of US racial mores sooner or later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squatter Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Childress and Splinty - if you want to compare the US behavior against its own citizens to that of non-democratic states like wartime Japan, by all means go ahead. I always thought the US prided itself on standing head and shoulders above such fascist dictatorships. I deliberately did not make comparisons since there are no equivalencies. But I do hold our nation, the USA, to a higher standard than I do other countries, if for no other reason that this is what we are told we are: superior in belief and in conduct. And in my opinion, the nation's conduct against its Japanese American citizens in that era was appalling. The argument that Japan treated other races worse is a red herring that serves no purpose other than to distract Americans from the fact that their nation was not living up to its own vaunted standards at the time. America could have done better, but failed to do so, all the while touting itself as the beacon of individual liberty and at the forefront of the fight against arbitrary, tyrannical governments that ran roughshod over their citizens. In point of fact, numerous wealthy and politically connected Americans personally benefited from closure of Japanese American businesses and the confiscation of their assets, and pressure from these sources was not an insignificant aspect of the anti-Japanese-American sentiment rampant in the US at the time. Well said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squatter Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Isn't that a very young Michelle Malkin in the photo? hehehehhehhehehhehehehehhe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Using family relations as an example, I question whether a father who stridently desires his son or daughter to conform to to an exalted standard really likes that kid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Actually it seems to have morphed into AH's Family photos which are ..... creepy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 They look like a couple of the Goebbel's kids. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Actually this thread started as a request to Mod non-white faces on the US troops in the Combat Mission Normandy game. These things always morph into an indictment of US racial mores sooner or later. Of course. Its why we all love coming here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Well the idea is that we exchange views and information about each other and maybe learn a bit about each other in the process. That includes the bad as well as the good. No need to be defensive about it, you are more or less amongst friends, especially given the homogeneity of the demographic of the BF forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 They look like a couple of the Goebbel's kids. They sort of look as if they already know their parents are going to poison them. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Snap! Alte Grofaz looks a bit weary, probably a photo for the Fuehrerbunker yearbook. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I predict, that when the Bulge module comes out and they show GIs running around in white sheets, you'll be able to hear the heads exploding on this forum without having to use a sound mod. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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