drtechno Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Hi guys If I have the full game, and my friend has the demo, can we play the demo battles against each other (PBEM or TCIP) ?? I understand the 2 demo battles are included in the full game so I would also assume that this would work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Springelkamp Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 No, it doesn't work. You will have to use the demo too, if he is playing the demo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Are you sure Erik? I'd have thought you could. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Springelkamp Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Are you sure Erik? I'd have thought you could. Demo scenarios and game scenarios are not compatible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Demo scenarios and game scenarios are not compatible. Have you tested this with CMSF? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Have you tested this with CMSF? I know for sure you cannot load demo scenarios into the full game and vice versa. Otherwise you can just download new scenarios for the demo. Don't know about the PBEMs though. Could be that the data is translated for the two scenario versions into a common format. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Springelkamp Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I am pretty sure it cannot be done. Otherwise only one player - the one launching the battle - would need the full game, and his opponent could always just use the demo. That is why I still have the CMA and CMSF demo installed, to play with possible recruits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Not that it's likely to be much of an issue. If the demo comes out even a few hours before the full game, most people who're going to get the full game will probably d/l the demo anyway, I'd hazzard... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtechno Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 It would be a small issue since if they both were released together, I would not want to install the demo. However, my friend is on the fence about buying the game, whether it would run well on his older cpu, and I would want to PBEM him on the demo to get his interest up. However, that would require I install the demo too.. "polluting" my harddrive/win7 registry further. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Springelkamp Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I would not want to install the demo. However, my friend is on the fence about buying the game, whether it would run well on his older cpu, and I would want to PBEM him on the demo to get his interest up. However, that would require I install the demo too.. "polluting" my harddrive/win7 registry further. Why not? The demo doesn't pollute your windows, as far as I know, it only takes a bit of disk space. Its effect on your operating system is minimal, as is proven by the fact that you can just copy the directory and then the game works from the new directory. It is a very clean installation, and the demo's don't install any drm devices. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtechno Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Hi Erik.. just to clarify, most (vast majority) of items installed in the registry do not perform a complete uninstall.. they leave behind keys, registry values, etc. that bloat the registry over time. Not sure if its the same with Win7, but I presume so. Just run a registry tracker at time of install and see if those items are still there after uninstall. I imagine they are. If you are indeed correct, and there are no registry entries made when installing the demo (doubt it), then I would have no problems installing both the demo and the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Springelkamp Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Hi Erik.. just to clarify, most (vast majority) of items installed in the registry do not perform a complete uninstall.. they leave behind keys, registry values, etc. that bloat the registry over time. Not sure if its the same with Win7, but I presume so. Just run a registry tracker at time of install and see if those items are still there after uninstall. I imagine they are. If you are indeed correct, and there are no registry entries made when installing the demo (doubt it), then I would have no problems installing both the demo and the game. I did a search through the registry of my windows machine, and the only registry entries Combat Mission (also old versions) makes are an entry for the un-installer, an application-path, probably used by the patches, and of course the entries for the start-menu. And of course there are all those references from other programs, like Adobe acrobat, who remembers I read the manual, the explorer that remembered I browsed the game data, zip-programs that remembered I unzipped a mod, etc, etc. In a modern windows system the basic registry entries of Combat Mission are completely negligible. It is fortunately not written in Visual Basic with 100's of COM components that have to register themselves and that could lead to fcked up systems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Victor Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Revo uninstaller is very good at getting rid of orphaned registry entries, in any case. Try it, it's a free download 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Springelkamp Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Revo uninstaller is very good at getting rid of orphaned registry entries, in any case. Try it, it's a free download With these Combat Mission registry entries, you could never measure the difference in any kind of performance test, even if there were 100 times as many of these. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtechno Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Great ! Thanks for the info. And huge thank you to Battlefront for not creating an efficient program (in regards to windows system modifications) !! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 What I'm saying is that if you've got the full game you can play the demo scenarios, therefore if you've got a mate who you want to play to see if they like it, they should be able to play using the demo. I think the demo is simply the game with the possible scenarios locked in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyJJ Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 What's a registry? (Yet another smug OSX user just passing time waiting for the demo. Couldn't resist.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Springelkamp Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 What's a registry? (Yet another smug OSX user just passing time waiting for the demo. Couldn't resist.) A configuration database. Your Mac has something similar, but it is a mess of 1000's of separate config files :-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtechno Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 So the final answer is that the demo and final game are not compatible. Demo battles can only be multiplayered with other demo copies. Correct? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 That's the case I'm afraid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhorn1x Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 So the final answer is that the demo and final game are not compatible. Demo battles can only be multiplayered with other demo copies. Correct? Kind of makes sense as - it's a demo. You want full features, you gotta buy the game. Jusy have your friend d/l and then go to his house and SHOW him how great it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 So the final answer is that the demo and final game are not compatible. Demo battles can only be multiplayered with other demo copies. Correct? Yes. (padded to achieve min post length) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Kind of makes sense as - it's a demo. You want full features, you gotta buy the game. Jusy have your friend d/l and then go to his house and SHOW him how great it is. Or d/l the demo yourself as well and play that vs him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 So the final answer is that the demo and final game are not compatible. Demo battles can only be multiplayered with other demo copies. Correct? Yes, correct. The reason is the Demo uses a lower threshold of DRM (copy protection) and is therefore more vulnerable to hacking than the actual product. The last thing we want is someone to learn how CM works using a cracked Demo and use that knowledge to cause problems for the full version. Therefore, the Demo has things ripped out, other things changed around, etc. so that a hacker can't direct compare the two. Note that none of these changes have any affect on the actual gameplay. That's identical to the whatever the current release version is. Oh, and the PC and Mac Demos are compatible with each other for TCP and PBEM. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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