How many AAVs to a company?

[Cpl Steiner]

Hi,

In the documentary on the Battle of An-Nasiriyah I posted a link to recently, it said Charlie Co. drove through "Ambush Alley" in 11 AAVs.

I tried to replicate this in CM:SF Marines and 11 seems way too many for a single company. Most AAVs were barely half full at this ratio.

In another test I managed to cram a company into just 7 AAVs, and even then I had several seats to spare.

So my question is, how many AAVs should be used to transport a Marines Co.?

[JonS]

AFAIK, its's three per platoon, two for company HQ, plus a couple of spares (spt weapons?), giving a total of 13.

Yes, you can fit a lot more soldiers into that many AAVs.

[Field Marshal Blücher]

I know someone who worked with Marines but wasn't an actual Marine who said that AAVs in practice carry far fewer troops than their theoretical maximum. Can someone confirm this?

[George MC]

Hi Cpl Steiner

Have you read:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ambush-Alley-Most-Extraordinary-Battle/dp/0891418814

First hand accounts of the actual fighting and a gripping read. Has maps and all sorts.

Cheers fur noo

George

[Cpl Steiner]

George,

Yes, I have read that book. As you say, excellent account of the An-Nasiriyah battle. As I was watching the documentaries I linked to about An-Nasiriyah in a previous post I noticed a lot of similar details between the documentaries and the book, such as an AAV running down RPG-toting gunmen as they were reloading etc.

The book mentions 11 or 12 AAVs per company in several places but I couldn't believe that was right given that they would all be virtually half empty but as the Field Marshal indicates it would appear this is quite normal. Seems like a hell of a waste of space!

[Field Marshal Blücher]

It does seem a hell of a waste of space, but my friend says that the theoretical maximum load of soldiers in an AAV is absurdly uncomfortable--as in, uncomfortable even for a military transport.

[Mord]

says that the theoretical maximum load of soldiers in an AAV is absurdly uncomfortable--

uh oh...I see 300 push ups in your future...ohhhhh Huntarr?

Mord.

[Denwad]

A bradley with any more than 4 is rediculously cramped, entirely absurd and uncomfortable.

the more space the better

the stryker has much more room, i can't imagine what an AAV is like.

[Secondbrooks]

Manual says platoon of AAVs is used to move marine-company.

[SgtMuhammed]

Remember that a platoon of AAVs is 13 vehicles. What you don't see in the game is all the crap that gets shoved into a combat loaded vehicle. Rations, spare equipment, ammo, mission essencial equipment, and just plain random stuff. Even if you strap your ruck to the outside the inside is still filled with duffle bags and extra rucks full of poggy bait and extra socks. Makes filling a vehicle to even half capacity rather cramped.

Remember that the official capacity of any military vehicle is "one more."

[Field Marshal Blücher]

uh oh...I see 300 push ups in your future...ohhhhh Huntarr?

Mord.

No, it's just that the Army finds it even more uncomfortable than the Marines.

That was an OK excuse, but I think I'm going to have to do my push-ups anyway . . .

[Lampshade111]

A bradley with any more than 4 is rediculously cramped, entirely absurd and uncomfortable.

Really now? Most guys I talk to say it fights 6 guys just fine.

[purpheart23]

I have actually had the privilege of taking a ride in both (AAV, M-2) vehicles. I will tell you that the AAV in comparison is a cadillac escalade minus the amenities of course, and the M-2 is a ford fiesta. However if I had to take one into battle, i'll jam my butt into the m-2 and away we go.