Capt. Toleran Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Hi all, I'm very excited about the coming Syria vs. U.S. focus of this game, but it also occurred to me (and many others) that the game could also be used to simulate Iran vs. Iraq (especially exciting battles like the Battle of Khorramshahr, or a fraction of it) or counter-insurgency ops in Iraq, or the Battle of Fallujah, for instance. Any of you scenario folks planning to do anything like I mention above? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitchen frizzy Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Can it? Will it have enough variety of units for that, or will scenarios like that be a big stretch? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Since folks used CMAK to make Viet Nam and Arab-Israeli war scenarios I'm sure eventually some one will do it. It sometimes takes a bit of imagination when playing but it works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Basically, one group of AK-toting conscripts vs another group of AK toting conscripts will simulate half the conflicts on the globe! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homo ferricus Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 hell, I simulated Israel vs. Hezb'allah in CMBB, and the Black Hawk Down incident in CMBO. All it takes is some imagination, and in CMSF, considering its modern US force vs. AK (and RPG) toting conscripts, simulating Iraq (or BHD for that matter) won't be a problem at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Toleran Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 What makes scenarios fun for me (and I used to hate single player CM, and swear only by PBEM) is the historical research that goes into each one. In the case of the Iran/Iraq scenarios, it would be possible to simulate the low-quality human wave troops (the Basij) with Revolutionary Guard backing, versus Republican Guard and low-quality regular Army units. Gosh, if someone else doesn't do it, I might actually have to try my hand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severin Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 From what I gather 1) Iran v Iraq: Prolly. Red V Red is an option. I imagine t-55s will work pretty much the same wether in 1981 or 2009 2) US v Iraq COIN: Not just no, but... BFC has stated many a time that this will not be the focus of CMSF. 3) 2nd Fallujah will have to wait for the USMC module 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Steiner Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Originally posted by Severin: 2) US v Iraq COIN: Not just no, but... BFC has stated many a time that this will not be the focus of CMSF.BFC are including IEDs, VIEDs, "Technicals" and "unconventional" forces such as spies and terrorists in the "Red" force mix, so I fail to see why you think US v Iraq COIN won't be possible whatever BFC say about the game's main focus. I for one will definitely try to simulate some Iraq post-invasion encounters with the tools provided by the game. However distasteful some people may find this, I think it is a legitimate use of the game that should not be overlooked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Toleran Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Glad to hear it, I also felt that conscript troops or any unconventional forces that might be included would work well for the insurgents. If you make those scenarios, I'll play them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Toleran Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Just replying to my own thread again -- US/Iraq seems very doable, for both wars, I and II, and the ensuing counterinsurgency. Just because Battlefront isn't making it part of the Syrian campaign doesn't mean we can't fight the battles we want, on the maps we make, using approxiamate forces, which in this case would be the next best thing to Battlefront having actually done an Iraq module. Just curious for the scenario folks here that plan to make some for CMSF -- Where do you plan to host? I hit the Proving Grounds a lot, since I feel like my efforts there not only entertain me, but also provide a minor service to the folks that need their stuff tested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 While it wouldn't be exact, an Iran vs. Iraq scenario could be acheived within certain limitations. Gulf War 1 is certainly out since we aren't including any of the Abrams or Bradley variants used back then, not to mention the different small arms and what not. The counter insugency can be semi-simulated. The more conventional the combat is, like Fallujah, the better. To do the more typical COIN ops, welll, personally we don't feel CM:SF is up to snuff on that (and isn't supposed to be). There is so much we aren't simulating for those types of ops. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Toleran Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Great to hear, Fallujah-level stuff (and smaller) is fine by me. My main point is that this new module will give us all a lot of flexibility, and the weapons systems (the old Russian tanks) to play out a whole host of scenarios outside of the basic scope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Is it possible to have three sides in a scenario or are we limited to 2? I have always thought a three way fight between sunni and shiite militias and U.S. troops would allow for some very interesting scenarios. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Two sides only. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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