SixGunsSouth Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 This seems strange that games like this wouldn't be placed into the mainstream via EB and SE and so forth. Why do we have to order them and wait for shipment when they could be sold at retailers? I suppose they just do it because it's cheaper that way or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Read Battlefront.com's History and Background to learn more about why it is only offered online in teh United States. If you want to buy it from a store, you can always hop over to Europe . . . Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Didn't you just say that many of the games you've bought were just crap? I think you already know part of the answer to your own question. Again, read the manifesto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrold Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 I think this is covered in the BFC Manifesto, but there is an infinitely lower amount of hassle with the infamous 'middlemen' that all want a cut. Keeping it simple allows a better return on their invested time and resources. Since they reach a good portion of their prospective audience through the internet, it makes good business sense to just sell online to most markets. In Europe, where it was explained that the market is not reached well through internet sales, BFC has an agreement with the retail distributor, CDV to sell CM:BO and CM:BB. This set-up does not mean it is set up in stone for the next iteration of the franchise, but they believe it is a good deal for them at this juncture. BTW, this is just my take on the situation, I do not claim to speak for BFC in any way, but to offer this hopefully correct response to keep them from having to stop what they are doing. BDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agua Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Originally posted by Commissar: Again, read the manifesto!I was going to give this a "ditto", but when I went to hunt for the link for SGS, I couldn't find the manifesto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 The Manifesto in its original form was becoming outdated, and has left us when the re-design of the webpages went up. It will be back at some point, but for now, the link from MrSpkr gives a nice overview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Isn't it sufficient to say that the American gaming industry is completely corrupt bunch of jerks where nobody sane can work in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaylord Focker Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Originally posted by redwolf: Isn't it sufficient to say that the American gaming industry is completely corrupt bunch of jerks where nobody sane can work in?Mabe, i think the main problem with quality of games these day is greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grisha Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 It's not just America. Ubisoft hails from France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Isn't it sufficient to say that the American gaming industry is completely corrupt bunch of jerks where nobody sane can work in? Nah, that's Wall Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWB Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Wow. They got the 5 together in one place, and the world did not come to a schreeching halt. BTS fix or do somefink! WWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaylord Focker Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 If i opened up a can of worms and made a topic on Baby Boomers in the General forum, would people be able to discuss it calmly and sanely or would it just be taken as and or degenerate into a silly flame war? [ July 19, 2002, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: Gaylord Focker ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Originally posted by Grisha: It's not just America. Ubisoft hails from France.I don't say the European distribution shops are better overall, but they do most of their jerking to the customers, and less to the developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Determinant Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Originally posted by Gaylord Focker: If i opened up a can of worms and made a topic on Baby Boomers in the General forum, would people be able to discuss it calmly and sanely or would it just be taken as and or degenerate into a silly flame war?There's probably only one way to find out. Go get 'em Tiger. Oh and while we're here. At least you're able to buy things on-line you lucky thing. I will have to buy some kind of 'not offend the company lawyers in Germany' variant of CMBB from a shop and I won't be able to buy direct like I bought CMBO. So you should count yourself glad and thank your lucky stars. I speak as a disgruntled company lawyer. [ July 19, 2002, 04:57 PM: Message edited by: Determinant ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 Sadly, the allmighty Buck (or Euro) seems to corrupt most anything it touches. When you commercialize a product and put it into the hands of the "financial/business/legal" whizzes, you just find them whizzing all over it, hence their moniker. I once worked for some rocket scientists (literally, they were nuclear physicists) who opened up a little specialty Mac software store in San Diego. It was one of those labor of love things and I was fortunate to work there and to manage it for a while in the late 80's. Then the green-tinged monster moved in to our town (i.e. CompUSA) and shut us down pretty much. Our customers loved us but the big store could loss-lead us into oblivion, which it quikly did, leaving the customers without anyone that had our depth of expertise. Sure, we could speak with precision and knowledge about software and hardware, but the big guys won in the end because the dollar talks and the consumer is woefully short-sighted at times. So, yeah, if BTS went and sold their products commercially in stores, you might find a bargain BTS title now and again, but in time the financial game would crush the life out of the company and we'd end up with sucky software. If it works...don't fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauCoupDinkyDau Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 Originally posted by Grisha: It's not just America. Ubisoft hails from France.Yes, but UbiSoft distributed IL-2, and the makers of that game are as much dedicated to their customers as BFC is. They punch out patches and listen to their fan base's needs just like our slaves, er, BFC does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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