Panzer Leader Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Wow, I have to say that Sig , "ALter Fritz", looks awesome! You are the pro, and the modeller (Jari Lievonen) did a great job too. Man seeing that, I simply CANNOT wait for the game. Model Contest [ March 15, 2002, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: Panzer Leader ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted March 16, 2002 Author Share Posted March 16, 2002 Here's a full size pic for the lazy bastiches: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Yes Dan, good work! Two thumbs up, and all that other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Awesome....(!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Hehe, glad you like Old Fritz guys. Jari did a great job on that model. Im looking forward to putting some of his other vehicles into the game. This one is the first 'official' model to be put into the game. Thus far the vehicles youve seen in game arent quite final, as weve added more detail and reworked many of them (you can see the jack, ammo containers, etc in this one). Dan [ March 15, 2002, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: KwazyDog ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gud Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Excellent ! Can't wait to have this baby shoot some Russkies....and maybe demolish a village or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Dan, It looks fantastic! Can't wait to roll em all out Now, please don't get me wrong as it is entirely subjective. But isn't "Old Fritz" a bit more of a character, as opposed to a more generic skins in CM:BO? I haven't really thought of it.. Might very well like this better.. Just a spur of the moment observation.. I mix up the model pics and the in game ones, so much more detail -- M. [ March 15, 2002, 08:20 PM: Message edited by: Mattias ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juju Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 [stunned]Oh... Wow...[/stunned] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Mattias, actually I do tend to agree I left it in there for a couple of reasons though. Firstly, we wanted to show the modellers out there just how close we will be able to get their submissions looking like the real deal once in game, and the slogan reallys adds a lot of character to the vehicle and defines it as Jaris model. Secondly, only a few of these vehicles were made, so they will be reasonably rare in game and you probaly will be seeing them used alone or in pairs. If it was a Panther it would defiantely have to go, but in this vehicle I kinda like it. That said, I still may take it off down the track though, what do the rest of you guys think? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted March 16, 2002 Author Share Posted March 16, 2002 I vote for leaving it in. It adds character to the tank and it makes modellers proud. And it just plain looks cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 38 Converted in February 1940. Several, out of the 38, still in service in mid 1943. They must have taken good care of Fritz and his brothers because by then they were indeed old -- M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGMB Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Soldiers, It seems to me that you've missed the most important facit! Those trees have NO SNOW on them! Seems like some one dl'ed the battle of the bulge mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Actually, CMBB has been like that for many months now, hehe. If the ground condition is only light snow and the temperature is warm enough the trees indeed wont have any snow covering them. Mattis, I was suprised at that too. Steve suggested that they were probably used sparingly to take out specific points (ie. were bought up only when needed) due to their low ammo count. This would also explain how they managed to survive for as long as they did. Dan [ March 15, 2002, 08:40 PM: Message edited by: KwazyDog ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted March 16, 2002 Author Share Posted March 16, 2002 A couple things I noticed (and please don't let this sound critical, because it is truly impressive): the driver and radio visors are almost impossible to detect, and the inside of the gun barrel is the same color as the outside, is this correctable or a matter of shared bmps? I also like a little black soot around the barrel but I see the original doesn't have that either. Would this type of cannon blacken with powder? Oh man, I love those rivets! And panzergrau! Finally the tanks are gray! I am so happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 PL, you cant see it too well in these shots but the vision ports arent too hard to detect in game. They are pretty dark as they are totally in shadow, but they are there. Insides and outsides of the barrel do have to be the same unfortuantely...not much we can do about that until the rewrite (current methods would double the polygons for the vehicle). Hehe, and yes Ill probably add some soot down the track. As I mentioned though, I wanted to keep this one as close to origional as possible as we have posted it for comparison over on the Missing Links site Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 That model does look fantastic but one thing you can't fail to take note of... aerodynamic it aint! Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Lovely! But the wheels still look like cutouts. Probably nothing that can be done about that at this point... *sigh* Otherwise, great! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priest Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG Kwazy you are friggen unbelievable. Hell some of people i showed could not tell the difference between the two, I had to point it out. I think someone got tired of game reviewers talking about CM graphics, that is what I think. I am giddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Bellator Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Dan - what a great job on the SIG, but can I ask about the 'light snow' you mention. I know we're spoiled by the superb Bulge mod now out, but is there any chance we can see something similar in CMBB for 'light snow', rather than the deep white retina burning stuff that is present on the picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Rex, now that you mention it that is actually heavy snow in the pic, so I guess it must have been a warm sunny day for there to be no snow on the trees. That being said though, we do have a light snow terrain that has small patches of green/brown showing through. We steered away from having an extremely patchy snow tile as the snowy buildings dont like right sitting on grass. What we do have now that is even better is a snowless tile that allows you to create patches of dead grass, so you should be able to build some nice looking terrain with what is available. Martin has created a great little Stalingrad op already that looks great Priest, glad you like her! Dan [ March 16, 2002, 12:20 AM: Message edited by: KwazyDog ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Michael, yup, we cant do much with the wheels yet unfortuantely until average system specs get a bit higher. We could easily give them depth, but we would probably have to limit players each to 3 or 4 vehicles per battle to keep the framerates descent...not too much fun on the Eastern Front This is something we will visit again for the rewrite though! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwin Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Nice, nice, nice. Both on the model to begin with and it's beautiful incarnation into CM. Isn't it nice just perusing the vehicle list. I try not to think about CMBB. It will eventually be here and I will enjoy it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Originally posted by Rex_Bellator: I know we're spoiled by the superb Bulge mod now out, but is there any chance we can see something similar in CMBB for 'light snow', rather than the deep white retina burning stuff that is present on the picture?Light snow??? In Russia???!!! On which planet? :confused: Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted March 16, 2002 Author Share Posted March 16, 2002 In October of '41 the snows started on the road to Moscow. I've read that there were light snows and the temps got down to the teens at night but would warm up in the day. I think that the first real blizzard (by German standards that is) was around the middle of November. Not to mention the spring thaw, of course that was quickly turned into a quagmire, so light snow would probably be best used for late autumn, early winter. Russia may be far north and cold, but they DO have seasons after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronChef4 Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 I'm getting very excited. nuff said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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