Moon Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Hertston, only part of the manual is on PDF. The juicy parts are printed. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertston Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Tom, No doubt complete with the equally "not official" .pdf file. Martin, Unfortunately, the "juicy parts" are not what I want. The "how to play" stuff is presumably much the same as CM:BO. It's the "boring" stuff that is needed - the details of where the games are different ! [ September 21, 2002, 07:45 PM: Message edited by: Hertston ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epée Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Hmmm....a 260 page manual is justo too big, heavy and takes up too much room. Can I mail in my US CMBB manual and have it exchanged for an European 90 page one with PDF's? Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Hertston, that exactly is what I meant with the juicy parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertston Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Just ordered it... it would have been terrible after all this to wait two weeks and find you had shipped your whole stock with the US CDs ! That copy is reserved as of 11:55 GMT 21 September, guys.. BTW, don't suppose there is any chance of making it $12 and shipping a CD with the US software with it ? Thought not.. Martin, I have to ask - have you actually seen the CDV manual ? Seems to me that the 90 pages should really be the stuff for those new to Combat Mission, who will form a far larger part of the market than old CMBO farts like me [ September 21, 2002, 07:59 PM: Message edited by: Hertston ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Um, Martin old son.... Those "juicy parts"...they wouldn't happen to be female now would they? [hopefully] Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSulo Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Although I didn't post in the "Fred"-thread (does that rhyme?), I weren't too happy about hearing of the cdv manual. Now these guys go WAY beyond the call of duty to please us disgruntled europeans. I'm very happy I will be able to read the whole deal again in the hmmm "little office". I think less than 500 will actually take up on this very fine offer, but still, for those that does it's a god-send. Or demi-god-send . On a different, but semi-related note, I'm a bit disapointed with BFC... (Well not disapointed, that's too strong, but I can't come up with the right word right now) Steve posted 10 times in the Fred-thread, KwazyDog 12 times, "battleing" it out with the (imho) broken record, aka Fred, but have not found the time to answer simple questions from me (campaign-layer in CMII, pdf manual in US version), or say anything about the clips of fireing tanks some of us posted (was it what he wanted?). I know it's selfish of me to expect any kind of answers from BFC, and they are very busy, but to see 20+ posts from them in that manual thread, devoted to that loud mouth Fred, well, I feel a bit left out, that's all. But I still love you, don't worry (Hope I don't get banned for this) [ September 21, 2002, 10:01 PM: Message edited by: SuperSulo ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 you won't get banned -tom w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 wo0t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by Captain Wacky: Whole issue should never comes up in first place! BTS screwing on Euro customers. That is not the way to treat Euro customers, I know, I went to business school. MadMatt and BTS all are HYBRIS. First we have Waffel Grenadiers, now .pdf manual. Now we pay for other manual. Steve you are feeling superior. Attack my positions and not my person. BTS is going quantity over quality, I should know. All true-blue wargamers know the most important part of game is the manual. More important that game itself. HYBRIS! Steve things he is a demigod. Go away BTS fanboys! Mmmmmmmm...waffel grenadiers This is the funniest thing I've seen all week! Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Army Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Good job guys. I know that's gonna make a lot of people going through CDV much happier. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Army Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by Captain Wacky: Mmmmmmmm...waffel grenadiers"Marge! Everyone knows that when you pack waffel grenadiers into bar form you unlock the power of their nutrients." ". . .emergency room please." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by Hertston: Martin, I have to ask - have you actually seen the CDV manual ? Seems to me that the 90 pages should really be the stuff for those new to Combat Mission, who will form a far larger part of the market than old CMBO farts like me Hertston, yes, I've done the layout for it. And I admit, I also couldn't resist going out and buying one, as the complimentary copy from CDV is a little slow to arrive The juicy stuff is as much for new players as for old farts. Both will need to read up on how the (new) orders work, the (new) C&C works, how the (new) interface works and so on. So the explanation of the differences between the two games is also an introduction that new players cannot miss. The PDF part has some more in-depth explanations about armor penetrations, a couple of tutorials and some other stuff which is not vital for playing the game. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by SuperSulo: I know it's selfish of me to expect any kind of answers from BFC, and they are very busy, but to see 20+ posts from them in that manual thread, devoted to that loud mouth Fred, well, I feel a bit left out, that's all.Don't. At the rate things are being posted here it's totally impossible not to miss a lot of stuff. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 What can I say.... This is the reason why I support this company gentlemen! Even though I am not touched by the CDV manual debacle as Africa is luckily not lumped to the rest of Europe, it is good to note that sometimes 5 people do more than the whole personnel division of a Fortune 500 company. :eek: Ek dank u by voorbaat, BTS. Kind regards, Charl Theron [ September 22, 2002, 05:04 AM: Message edited by: WineCape ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertston Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by Moon: Hertston, yes, I've done the layout for it. And I admit, I also couldn't resist going out and buying one, as the complimentary copy from CDV is a little slow to arrive The juicy stuff is as much for new players as for old farts. Both will need to read up on how the (new) orders work, the (new) C&C works, how the (new) interface works and so on. So the explanation of the differences between the two games is also an introduction that new players cannot miss. The PDF part has some more in-depth explanations about armor penetrations, a couple of tutorials and some other stuff which is not vital for playing the game. MartinFair enough. I know you guys must think we are a bunch of whiners. It may re-assure you that the manual and SS sanitation wouldn't be that much of an issue with anything else - it's just that we really do care about this product and it's predecessor as the "best of the best" in this genre and don't want to see it "spoiled" even in a small way. Apart from that, the .pdf thing really annoys me in general, and it seems like things will only get worse... [ September 22, 2002, 05:31 AM: Message edited by: Hertston ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Good lord, a Charles sighting! Has it been 6 months already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 This is so completely FUBAR it's becoming amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by Sirocco: This is so completely FUBAR it's becoming amusing. Hi Now that there is a workable solution it is sort of amusing, agreed -tom w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by aka_tom_w: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sirocco: This is so completely FUBAR it's becoming amusing. Hi Now that there is a workable solution it is sort of amusing, agreed </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by Sirocco: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by aka_tom_w: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sirocco: This is so completely FUBAR it's becoming amusing. Hi Now that there is a workable solution it is sort of amusing, agreed </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascal DI FOLCO Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Ahem.. Even being a pre-Fred whiner :mad: about all this CDV deal, this time I have to top my hat to this demonstration of customer care . Kudos, guys, really ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by Andreas: So please instead of all getting your knickers in a twist, get the facts straight. You are not two weeks late, and it is not $10.And the world's flat, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 As I menioned before, I can understand how this situation has come about, and I fully accept the reasoning, but it's FUBAR for people outside North America, and I'm merely pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Originally posted by Sirocco: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Andreas: So please instead of all getting your knickers in a twist, get the facts straight. You are not two weeks late, and it is not $10.And the world's flat, right?</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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