Scheer Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 In a recent battle against one of my PBEM buddies one of my heavy MG42´s killed a greyhound. Peppered him from behind for maybe fourty seconds,range was sumthing around fifty meters, then the crew abandoned the greyhound, and was captured. One turn earlier the same grayhound killed bravely my last Stug. I think it took cojones to take on a Stug with a lowly greyhound. And just one turn later the same brave crew abandoned a perfectly fine grayhound because a mg fired on it. Strange ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone_Vulture Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 The Greyhound has a mere 10mm armor in the back. What did you expect? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenGod Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 That's because a MG42 is perfectly capable of drilling through the weak rear / side armor of many of the Allied light vehicles, especially at such a close range. Same deal with the US .50 cal machine gun. It's generally a good idea to keep your lighter vehicles at least 200m back from enemy machine guns for safety (and even then, sometimes a MG42 will penetrate). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGMB Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 Excuse my ignorance, but what's the caliber on the MG42? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj. Battaglia Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 7.92mm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meach Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I just had this explained to me recently and it turns out they had armour-piercing ammo for the MG that was well capable of punching through 10mm at 50m SMK rounds. I blew up a MG carrier from the front with a bunker MG recently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walpurgis nacht Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Just keep your nose forward relative to the MG42 position and your greyhound will be fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 It doesn't take AP ammo to pierce a light armored vehicle. Even a handgun is a threat if he's close enough. Even today the U.S. Army had to jump through hoops to field an armored Hummer that would reliably stop a (lower power) AK round from 100m! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denwad Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 That's because almost all of 7.62x39 is steel-core BTW it usually does, unless you're fighting a vehicle armored with boiler plate, regular ball ammo isn't going to penetrate more than 2-3mm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moondog Duke of Boots Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 If your MG42 killed the greyhound did the rabbit get away ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Oh no!! BFC forum humor !!! :eek: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdstrike Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 We're talking about buses here, right? :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I thoought we were talking about Dog Racing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone_Vulture Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by Firefly: I thoought we were talking about Dog Racing. Badger Racing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoffee Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by MikeyD: Even today the U.S. Army had to jump through hoops to field an armored Hummer that would reliably stop a (lower power) AK round from 100m! I was reading in "Black Hawk Down" whereby an AK-47 armed somalian fired at very close range into the side of a Hummer that had its bullet-resistant windows down. Given that the door is suppose to stop an AK-47 round by itself, i would say the ability of the Hummer to stop AK-47s is pretty low. The bullet penetrated the door and passed into the knee of a soldier. The skin of the knee was penetrated but the bullet got flattened out by the kneecap and slid to the side of the knee. A minor injury but still the bullet did pass completely through the Hummer's door. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 We may be sliding off-topic here, but the U.S. hummer's got several armor types available. The worst (of couse) is the canvas flap, flowed by the aluminum door with a Kevlar-like glass fiber layer. I think there's also a heavier resin-imgregnated Kevlar door, and finally a proper steel door. Now they're coming out with post-it-note armor... Armor panels that are applied with an adhesive back! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coe Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 In a CMBB scenario I had an MG42 kill a SU76 from 10m (I think the SU76 has 0mm in the rear) but it was rather amusing to have the MG42 have a tank/SP-Gun kill. It took several bursts - I assume the MG42 crew was so excited to have the opportunity it got nervous or something like that. has there been any instances in CM series where like a 6 man HMG/MMG crew gets wiped out in one shot (not like from massive artillery - but like from a tank round - in theory it should be possible much like when a gun gets hit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone_Vulture Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Originally posted by coe: has there been any instances in CM series where like a 6 man HMG/MMG crew gets wiped out in one shot (not like from massive artillery - but like from a tank round - in theory it should be possible much like when a gun gets hit. A gun? Huh? :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coe Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 sorry I meant gun as in larger caliber (i.e. cannon) e.g. Pak 75/40 20mm/55 etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon988 Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Originally posted by coe: has there been any instances in CM series where like a 6 man HMG/MMG crew gets wiped out in one shot (not like from massive artillery - but like from a tank round - in theory it should be possible much like when a gun gets hit. Sure. A lucky direct hit from a good artillery or tank shell can KO an entire HMG crew. Can't think of any specific incidents at the moment but I'm positive it's been done. Just like how I've seen tank shells kill entire squads of infantry. The biggest mass killing I saw was from a friendly fire incident in CMBO. During one of my many battles in Normandy a big honking piece of American artillery landed amidst the GI's. I swear at least 10 individual squad units were eliminated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruthless Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 I had the privelege of taking out my email opponent's IS-1(?) with my Puma...that was an excellent moment... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenH Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 "bad things happen" should be a seperate thread Worst I've experienced was having a mortar shell score a 3-point basket (no rim) into the open hatch of my sole Panther :eek: I think I spent about 3 min staring at the burning wreck....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denwad Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 HAHAHAHAHAHAH I've had a PzIVJ taken out by a Su-76 after the IV missed a 99% hit chance shot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherV Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 I have knocked out a squad of infantry with the 128mm AT gun :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpwase Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 Originally posted by KenH: "bad things happen" should be a seperate thread Worst I've experienced was having a mortar shell score a 3-point basket (no rim) into the open hatch of my sole Panther :eek: I think I spent about 3 min staring at the burning wreck....... ROFL! Stuff like that should happen more often. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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