Urban Shocker Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Enigma Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Pvt Hans Smucht? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-warfare Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 A carefully-posed mannequin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Urban Shocker, No, I don't. I bet, though, it first ran in the German war propaganda mag SIGNAL. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuirassier Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 One of the Nazgul uncloaked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I believe it was published in LIFE Magazine, also, meaning it was distributed internationally. To my knowledge, the subject has not been identified but you might try the forum at feldgrau.com. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Who cares? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmavis Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Another timely rescue from National Socialist fanboy madness, eh, Jason? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvidae Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 It would be worth while to know his name, Did he survive? How he felt then, and how he feels now? He is another nameless face in a picture. A boy from some small German town probably. A believer, who probably thought that "god" was on his side. He probably realy believed that jesus was talking to Hitler. He probably had his rifle blessed by a priest or pastor. He probably wrote letters home to his mother telling her all about the "sinners" he was "saving" on the holy crusade that Hitler was sending him on. And he probably struggled to hold that belief despite the abbominations he saw all around him. And he probably died far from home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Shocker Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 I asked because I've seen that picture so many times and was curious along the lines of Corvidae's post. I was prompted by going to the ASL web site and found this picture: Then I image googled german soldier WW2 or some such thing and found the above picture which as I have stated I've seen many times. I am curious as to why someone would post "Who cares." Is it because they habitually post "who cares" on threads in which they have no interest in which case I would ask why bother or is it because they were trying to expose my "true" hidden intention for asking about the identity of a german soldier? If you are interested in my true intentions see the 1st paragraph, it doesn't get deeper than that! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinkar Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Originally posted by Corvidae: It would be worth while to know his name, Did he survive? How he felt then, and how he feels now? He is another nameless face in a picture. A boy from some small German town probably. A believer, who probably thought that "god" was on his side... You think he was a cliche from a bad WWII novel then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvidae Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Hinkar, Absolutely..... Of course all WWII novels were bad. And brimming with cliches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jBrereton Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Anders Schmidt. As a guess. No idea really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-warfare Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I will maintain that it's not only a posed picture but a posed department store mannequin. Karstadt Warenhaus AG had a line of Stielhandgranate-holding mannequins in the late 30's, and this is an image of just such a one placed on its belly in a field. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Personally, I think the question is just as valid as asking the identity of the famous crying Frenchman in Paris, the young commissar(?) with his bandaged head and pilotka, or the Marine racing across the ground in combat crouch, rifle in hand. A friend of mine actually managed that feat. Believe the Marine's name was Don Eison or something like that. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Originally posted by John Kettler: Personally, I think the question is just as valid as asking the identity of the famous crying Frenchman in Paris, the young commissar(?) with his bandaged head and pilotka, or the Marine racing across the ground in combat crouch, rifle in hand. A friend of mine actually managed that feat. Believe the Marine's name was Don Eison or something like that. Regards, John Kettler The latter - Ison - was featured in ASL Annual or The General; anyone who bought the magazine "managed the feat". There was an entire article on how the photo came to be. He was still alive when the magazine came out in the late 1990s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Originally posted by Urban Shocker: I asked because I've seen that picture so many times and was curious along the lines of Corvidae's post. I was prompted by going to the ASL web site and found this picture: Then I image googled german soldier WW2 or some such thing and found the above picture which as I have stated I've seen many times. I am curious as to why someone would post "Who cares." Is it because they habitually post "who cares" on threads in which they have no interest in which case I would ask why bother or is it because they were trying to expose my "true" hidden intention for asking about the identity of a german soldier? If you are interested in my true intentions see the 1st paragraph, it doesn't get deeper than that! Are ya gonna keep gibbering or are you going to take my advice? I wouldn't steer you wrong, honest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Michael Dorosh, My recollection is that my friend Don Hawthorne, the then editor of the GENERAL right up to Eric Dott's precipitous selloff of Avalon Hill, was the driving force behind identifying Ison. Readers of the magazine benefited from his effort, but I'd rate the level of participation as low. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Ah, I stand corrected; we're talking about the same fellow! I didn't realize your friend was the editor...thought maybe he had just read the article. LOL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvidae Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Maybe It's JasonC from prior life or prior identity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I've tracked it down as far as the cover of Signal, October 1941.. There's a few Signal websites on the 'net, so perhaps enquiries there might get info from someone who has a copy of that edition? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Originally posted by Stalin's Organist: I've tracked it down as far as the cover of Signal, October 1941.. There's a few Signal websites on the 'net, so perhaps enquiries there might get info from someone who has a copy of that edition? A good lead. Worth noting that very likely the subject of the photo was not identified - they seemed to identify the PK photographers far more often than the subject matter! But a great start. Interesting that Signal tilted the photo to make the subject line up with the page rather than the trees in the background. [ December 17, 2006, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: Michael Dorosh ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I wonder why Signal would have a photo of a couple of Germans surrendering on the cover of their Nov 41 issue? http://www.chez.com/luftwaffe2/images/Annee%201941/Signal%2022-1941.jpg (linking doesn't work - try cut&paste) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Originally posted by JonS: I wonder why Signal would have a photo of a couple of Germans surrendering on the cover of their Nov 41 issue? http://www.chez.com/luftwaffe2/images/Annee%201941/Signal%2022-1941.jpg (linking doesn't work - try cut&paste) Foreign language edition...I wondered that too. You mean the one with the guys in the greatcoats? Abraham Lincoln, Churchill and Roosevelet were all featured on covers too - no doubt some racist expose in the lead article or somefink about how Lincoln was a Jew or something astonishingly important to the conduct of the war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 No, the two guys behind the PaK. (I'd say the guys in the greatcoats - Jan 42 - are Rooskies) Some of the cartoons are a bit obscure. Interesting looking at the subject and tone of the photos from start to finish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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