Cane Toad Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 I invaded Ireland as the Allies with a HQ, Army and Corps. After I conquered Ireland I found that I couldn't get my units off. Are they stuck on Ireland permanently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercloud Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Yep, they're stuck there :eek: You fell for one of Hubert's traps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Wiking] Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 I have the same problem!!!! One Army and two tank groups (biig tanks, many medals) are stuck on Ireland. I know this is a sort of trap but in my opinion it is unrealistic. Hubert fix or do somefink! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Lucke Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Yah, try moving a bomber group to Sardinia, or a fighter wing to Crete --- you'll end up with the same problem. Only thing to do is disband 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 You could invest in long range aircraft to get them out. If it is a ground unit, and it is out of supply, you are truly stuck, can't disband. This should be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob lundgren Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 i fell for attacking ireland in the demo. but i see why its that way. to prevent the uk from getting bonus mpps and a big lump sum of mpps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasreich Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 If your going for Ireland, just use air power and a couple battleships. Land a single corps and when dublin is clear, just move that solitary corp in. Very little forces wasted. Although the first time I invaded, I left Monty and 4 armies stranded there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straha Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Actually we discovered this a long time ago when playing the first Beta Demo. Somehow it was forgotten, then. The problem is that Ireland has no harbor. Should be easy to fix, I guess. Straha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compassion Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Hubert removed the port he had there while the game was in development on purpose to stop the Allied player from attacking Ireland just to get points as he felt that was the more unrealistic option. DO a search (or just scroll back to the begining of the forum) for more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Rock Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Perhaps a better solution would be for it to hit the Allies hard politically, pushing non-aligned nations into the Nazi camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straha Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Originally posted by Brian Rock: Perhaps a better solution would be for it to hit the Allies hard politically, pushing non-aligned nations into the Nazi camp.I think this is a very nice idea. Declaring war on Ireland as the Allies should have disastrous political effects, undermining Allied credibility to fight for freedom and democracy. Having units stuck OTOH is not a good trade off with respect to getting rid of the problem Compassion reminded us of. It's somehow too much bug-like. Straha [ August 15, 2002, 01:07 PM: Message edited by: Straha ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloid Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 I hear the castles are nice this time of year... If Hubert adds political ramifications (eeew big word), then perhaps we'll get to see Irish partisans as well! Aloid [ August 15, 2002, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: Aloid ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl G. E. von Mannerheim Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 The IRA in SC now that would be interesting. Remember that Irish character from the Movie 'the Eagle has Landed' it all makes since, but not in a game of this scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willard Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 Trapped in Ireland!!! Now you know how the British occupation forces in the North feel!!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Patch Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Political ramifications would be a non-issue, the Allies just wait until the USA and USSR are in the war and that little probelm goes away. But 1942 it's a pefect time - the allied fleets have very little to do anyway and America needs the MPPs . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John DiFool Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Actually there is another such trap: in the 1941 scenario, the Germans don't own Tobruk (Tripoli isn't a port for some reason even though it was used much more than Tobruk was) and as such you can't ship Rommel & Co. to the mainland (which would be a good idea due to the inevitable North African stalemate). Your best bet then is to shift his forces to attack Vichy, which is his only hope of seeing Europe again! John DiFool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbellamy Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 the problem with adding more ports is that a port is useless unless it's at 5, so if you add new ports then you're giving people extra MPP's perhaps the mpp's given for a nearby city can be reduced to accomodate the new port? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 As originally posted by blackbellamy: the problem with adding more ports is that a port is useless unless it's at 5, so if you add new ports then you're giving people extra MPP's Alright, so make Tripoli a port (... I agree that it was more critical to Italy than Tobruk) and give Britain -- Suez City -- with or without the around-the-horn movement allowance (for now). Equal trade, yes? And this would provide more rationale for bolstering forces in North Afrika. As for Ireland, it would be a highly suspect to add a port, since they played very little active role in the war. But, "what-if" strategies should allow USA or Britain to conquer if they choose to do so -- perhaps it has some negative influence on the remaining neutrals, such as Spain or Vichy? I don't know, and this is where some sort of a scorecard of all possible political influence would come in handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrionDelta Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 i just bomb it with airplanes and use a corps it works fine and more then pays for the corps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George40 Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Regarding the Irish dilema it seems that political ramifications retain the feel and spirit of the game. Additionally, Irish partisans are plausable (IRA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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