kohlenklau Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Hiya folks, I am conceptualizing a CMPzC Operation along the lines of what I am doing over in CMBN forums for "The Road to Eindhoven". I will follow my favorite sanity maintenance protocols of 10-10-10x10 (10 PzC turns max, 10 units per side max, 100 total hexes max map size). I was previously thinking PzC Minsk 44 (Bagration) for an operation but I am about sick of that period....so I just ordered John Tiller's PzC Budapest '45 on ebay for $20 and by the time we get a module for CMRT (snow) I will be all organized. Anyway, if anyone wants to get involved, please post here and we can use this thread for ideas and kick things around. I have added the concept of minibattles and will soon introduce "leader units". I think it can be great fun. And that is what it is all about, right? Some eye candy. Just as a placeholder for early ideas... Note: My Dad ("Tibor" or Ted in English. I miss you Dad!) was of all Hungarian descent but born in New Jersey in '25. As a young kid he was told to just speak English. But anyway, later on he would come up to me when I was a kid and do a fake soft chop with his hand to the back of our heads and say "Nyak Leves!" It means "neck soup" in Hungarian but I guess it has a 2nd meaning like getting busted up side the head. Or the back of the head actually... Edited March 10, 2015 by kohlenklau 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 The Budapest campaign always was a period of the war that fascinated me. Grrrr...you're really tempting me to get this damned game, Kohl! LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Good stuff Phil. My hope is BF release a Kharkov 43 module, I'd love to play a PzC-CM game using it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Good stuff Phil. My hope is BF release a Kharkov 43 module, I'd love to play a PzC-CM game using it. The time frame of CMRT is definitely less interesting to me than the three battles of Kharkov in '43. I agree, a module with that would be marvellous! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 When were those battles?..Feb '43 and a few months after? With snow right? That is TWO families away. I think you have a long wait. And I think I could be almost 60 before we see, if we ever see, Barbarossa June '41. Life is short. I recommend you try and simulate/substitute and do Kharkov with the next module of CMRT. What do we not have that you need on your Kharkov CM battlefields? snow. snow clothing for axis/allied. Waffen-SS. older versions of PzKpfzW IV (?). What else? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Your a young man so you will see the most significant land warfare of WWII (Barbarossa '41) well before 60.(I hope anyway) I think I would trade that for Kursk and Stalingrad - dare I say.- Kevin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 I am 50 now and it seems 7 human years is 1 dog year. No, that is the wrong math! 3"HM" WW2 historical months = 12-18-24-36-(?)"RM" real months development/release BFC? Help me take a stab at a number.... CMBN released April 2011 <June 44>. Over 2 years later October 2013 and we got <Sept '44 Market-Garden>. Nothing into October 44 yet, No Aachen, No Bulge yet. CMFI released August 2012 <Sicily July 43>. May 2013 we get GL and now we have out to <June 44>. Nothing new. CMRT released April 2014 for <Summer-June 44 Bagration>. Almost a year later in real time. Nothing new.... Going back to June 41 from June 44 will be 36HM, Crazy Reverse Chronology! So I predict as much as 144 RM = 12 years. You're right. I will not be 60. I will probably be 62 and can claim social security just as I pre-order... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 ...and the limited BFC resources to do anything are now stretched out over several families so it does not bode well for WW2 fans that CMBS gets more focus due to possibly better sales/financial return. We may get pretty lonesome if we see a CMBS module come out or CMSF2 before any significant WW2 stuff. Or worse we get a quasi-rehash WW2 new family. Snow from CMFI. Waffen-SS from MG, Some of the same TOE from CMBN. but add a bunch of juicy new vehicles and tank riders and it is a wonderful new family but no Fallschirmjager until CM Bulge gets its first module....? Please just lump it all in from the gitgo and tack on a few bucks. Anyway, this thread is about enjoying the game in a new/expanded manner. I don't mind pretending CMFI GL is Bulge 44 if I am on my PC today creating a campaign/operation/scenario. Oh yeah. I also got John Tiller's PzC Salerno 43 for $20 so I can do some fun CMPzC stuff over in the CMFI threads.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I want in, Phil, but as a unit commander, not the big cheese this time! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 SturmKompanie Kerner! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Jawohl, Herr General! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Shucks, if we only have a tiny bit of interest, we can even dial it down to a 5-5-5x5 protocol....! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Lessons learned: 1. Share e-mail addresses between all players to help coordinate things when needed. 2. Each side gets a PzC OOB chart with unit images and files for corresponding CM OOB's. 3. Unit Headcount, unit structure, experience and motivation established in the beginning as early as possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinrich505 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Kohlenklau, I'd love to get involved but I simply don't have the time right now. Too much RL and a brutal work schedule. I'll continue to cheer from the sidelines. Your concept of combining PzC and CM is quite novel, and I am enjoying it greatly. I am also hoping to live long enough to see more CMRT games/families come out. Personally I'd love Stalingrad, but we'd probably need some serious work on hand-to-hand combat, as that was the lion's share of the fighting once the Germans got into the city proper. It just wouldn't "feel" right trying to assault the Red Barricades or the Dzerzhinsky Tractor Factory without some sort of abstraction for melee. CMBB's hand-to-hand worked for the animations in CMx1 but we'd need something a little more on par with the 1 to 1 we have now with CM. Heinrich505 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 Heinrich, Not quite the sidelines! I appreciate your support and will name another German leader after you. If you wake up in a cold sweat....not my fault! Maybe they can just speed up the buddy aid animation and have a bayonet/e-tool in their hands for melee!!!??? That funny one with the circling his hands (for bandages??) is like Moe winding up to pop Curly! Hey, for the record I followed in other's footsteps. I am happy to blaze a few new branches of the trails that noob initially chopped out of the wilderness. And Kuderian and Fizou. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinrich505 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Oh yes, that one is good. "Woo Woo Woo Woo Woo. Hey Moe, I keep tryin ta think, but nuthin happens..." I like your melee suggestions. Oh man, immortalized in an upcoming battle! That will be an honor. Hopefully I don't have a "scratchy throat." Pressure is on for me to perform well. I can take heart that IanL survived the epic battle between c3K and DMS in the new release...and he was on BOTH sides, haha. I think this trail you are blazing is just grand. The bit about "neck soup" was great. My father came from Germany after the war. Amazingly enough, he had a similar gentle hand chop to the neck, but I can't remember the phrase he would use. It had to be the same sort of thing. Heinrich505 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 I think you know that you are currently mjkerner's FlaK Abteilung Fuhrer for the Hex (1,7) battle. Follow along with those DAR's. I hope you make it! Cool story about your Dad. Did you ever go back to the homeland? ....and where was he from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migo441 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Kohlenklau, Is there any need for extra hands in the GM / administrator area? If so, I'd be interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinrich505 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I've been following along with every battle from both sides. I hope I make it too. FLAK Abteilung Führer sounds just fine - it is quite a change from my previous command of a battery of HJ boys and girls working the AA defense of Schweinfurt. If only the Oberst hadn't found those pictures I had of his wife... My father was from Tübingen, a university town in the State of Baden-Württemberg, about 19 miles south of Stuttgart. Been back there twice but that was many years ago. Heinrich505 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 I went to Hungary in 1989 with my father and uncle. We had been set up with a Hungarian police officer who spoke good English and she got us to the town where my Gandmother Grace Sole was from. Sopron? I remember we drove out to the sticks and approached an old house with shutters and windows open (November!) and an old woman in a handkerchief was leaning out and long story short she pointed off to the forest and the translation came back that all my maternal relatives had either died or moved to the new world. On the grandfather's side, I was told Stalin had annexed that region of eastern Hungary after WW2 and it became part of Ukraine... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinrich505 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 That is a neat story. It is always amazing to go to these old places and there is someone who seems to remember family members. I shudder to think of what happened to annexed eastern Hungary...Stalin generally wasn't the forgiving type. Always room in the Gulag Inn. Heinrich505 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 Hey Heinrich, Maybe sometime in one of the CMPzC Operations I can rack you up a minibattle? Usually they go very quickly with hardly any units and not a big set-up. Turns cannot take very long and we could skip the DAR. As long as we knew ahead of time so you didn't get to read any clues in one of the 2 sides' threads. I've already got a good scenario idea for you. Flamethrower operator in a city full of burning buildings! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinrich505 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Was laughing too hard to type for a while - flamethrower amongst burning buildings...Ach du Lieber, how frustrating that must be... As a matter of fact, I had a flamethrower character in one of my CMBB AARs. There was an interesting backstory to him as well. You can keep me in mind - that does sound interesting. Oh yes, I pulled everyone back to guard the bridge and still got pasted. Grrrr...I'll figure out that Dommel bridge battle yet! Heinrich505 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I think you know that you are currently mjkerner's FlaK Abteilung Fuhrer for the Hex (1,7) battle. Follow along with those DAR's. I hope you make it! Cool story about your Dad. Did you ever go back to the homeland? ....and where was he from? He is? I need to check in on the men more often, I guess. Good for their morale and all! I will try to take good care of him then. Oh, and for intel purposes any of you Allied opponents over on the CMBN threads think you may glean from this info, especially good 'ol Chappy, those are 88's we're talking about...dozens and dozens of 'em! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Yes. Feld Marshal Heinrich. Flak Armee Holland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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