Alexey K Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 My tank has just hit enemy Stryker. Notification was "HIT : Wheels", looking at the damage report for that Stryker - "12.7 MG Damanged". Since when Strykers has their MGs attached to their wheels? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) The round went through the wheels and hit the ground right? Shrapnel splashed up and damaged the machine gun. Edit: In all seriousness the damage model isn't 100% accurate, its abstracted to a degree and a little imagination is required for situations like that. Edited February 22, 2015 by Raptorx7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewood1 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 In CMSF, you used to see this a lot. Rear hit on a tank leads to optics damage. At one time, the randomization of the damage model seemed off. Haven't seen it much beyond CMSF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey K Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 Okay, it was special classified round, that guides itself after penetration right to main weapon of target 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skwabie Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 The supposed assassination of JFK by Lee Oswald had some wild explanation on that magical bullet as well. Or so I hear.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFF Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 In all seriousness the damage model isn't 100% accurate, its abstracted to a degree and a little imagination is required for situations like that. Eh, sounds more like a bug. If you guys see this happen again, post a save file here showing the incident. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domfluff Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The supposed assassination of JFK... ... I'm fairly certain he was assassinated. Unless he's living on the Moon or got really hairy and started roaming the woods, prompting stories about a Bigfoot with a Boston accent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Didnt the reptilians from aplha centauri abduct JFK? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Eh, sounds more like a bug. If you guys see this happen again, post a save file here showing the incident. Hm fair enough, I believe I have seen this happen across all CM titles, I will keep a lookout and report it if I see it happening again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey K Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Eh, sounds more like a bug. If you guys see this happen again, post a save file here showing the incident. What kind of game state is requires? Right after I see suspicious event? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skwabie Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm fairly certain he was assassinated. Unless he's living on the Moon or got really hairy and started roaming the woods, prompting stories about a Bigfoot with a Boston accent.eh it shoulda read "The assassination of JFK supposedly by Oswald" or something like that...At the very least,, he's not beamed up by Kerbals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Reflecting on this issue, I wonder if the '12.7mm mg' in the game included the optics, which would extend down into the body of the vehicle to the gunner's position. I don't know which flavor of Stryker got hit, if it was the remote weapon station or the flexible mount that needs to be manned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 If something that carries HE hits anywhere on the vehicle, it can do incremental damage to external sub-systems, regardless of relative locations. HE damage is highly abstracted, and has less logical effects at the lower end of the spectrum. If it was a pure AP hit (especially a non-penetrating one) something buggier might have happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey K Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 I think tank would fire armour piercing round, not HE one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Armor piercing rounds, today, generally are meant for tanks. They can go through nearly a meter of steel. They don't have any explosive filler. A high speed dart going through a Stryker wouldn't be very effective. (Sure, one or two guys will be jellied, but the vehicle would be mostly okay. Maybe. ) Far better to use a shell filled with HE (HEAT style). That'll reduce the Stryker to scrap metal spread over an acre or so. That's a huge difference in outcome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey K Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Armor piercing rounds, today, generally are meant for tanks. They can go through nearly a meter of steel. They don't have any explosive filler. A high speed dart going through a Stryker wouldn't be very effective. (Sure, one or two guys will be jellied, but the vehicle would be mostly okay. Maybe. ) Far better to use a shell filled with HE (HEAT style). That'll reduce the Stryker to scrap metal spread over an acre or so. That's a huge difference in outcome. Nevertheless, I've observed several times as 125mm round fired at Stryker or Bradley passes right though them and blasts something behind target. So, it was probably AP round. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Recently i had a T-90A (the one with the Shtora red eyes) fire an APFSDS round at a Bradley at super close range (accidential encounter in a forrest) and the projectile ricocheted (!) from the Bradleys frontal hull armor. I dont have a save, but next time something like that hgappens i ll provide one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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