Apocal Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Been getting back into CMBN recently and just noticed a unit called "cannon company" under the infantry tab. It has an on-map HQ unit and vehicle, cool. But added it and no on-map guns, just the HQ...? Uh, what's the point? Or does it require Market Garden to get the on-map tubes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Is it a unit that has "on map" and "off map" options in the pane at the bottom? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Is it a unit that has "on map" and "off map" options in the pane at the bottom? It is not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'm not sure what type of formation the cannon company represents or why it is in the infantry section rather than artillery, but the "cannons" of the cannon company are 105mm howitzers, which I am fairly sure cannot ever be on-map. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Apocal, I haven't used the unit in the game, but I can tell you what Cannon Company is. Cannon Company is the Regiment CO's artillery unit, and unlike the typical U.S. M101 105mm howitzers with their shields and all that, these are stubby and have no shield. Originally developed for the Airborne to give some power to supplement the 75mm pack howitzers, the M3 105mm Howitzers were also issued to U.S. infantry regiments. Cannon Company (6 tubes, 2 tubes per platoon) is to Regiment as 81s are to Battalion. Organic fire support. I'd presume the HQ unit is tied to the guns, which are offboard. In addition to the good info in the Wiki, the pic which first introduced me to this weapon is also there. It's a censored wartime (unit patches airbrushed out) pic of one firing on Germans retreating near Carentan, July 11, 1944. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_howitzer Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Most cannon companies are the regimental cannon companies, equipped with stubby infantry support guns of some variety. They gave the regiment some organic HE ability. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Which army/arm are you looking in? I've vague recollections that there are Cannon companies in both US and German TOs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 US Army, infantry, 1944. I know what a real cannon company was, I simply thought it was puzzling to put a larger indirect fire asset under the infantry tab along with an on-map headquarters section. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Gents -- this link may prove useful: http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref/FM/PDFs/FM7-37..PDF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eniced73 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Been getting back into CMBN recently and just noticed a unit called "cannon company" under the infantry tab. It has an on-map HQ unit and vehicle, cool. But added it and no on-map guns, just the HQ...? Uh, what's the point? Or does it require Market Garden to get the on-map tubes? Everyone else gave you pretty good info on the real world unit but you stated you already knew that. Pertaining to the game - there is no on board option to see the 105's as you already know. They are just artillery that you use the HQ unit as the spotter. From my experience playing the game you can get the rounds in faster if you pick a single "forward observer" unit to make the call. From what I remember they are around 2 min faster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 IIRC, there are a handful of units like that, and the artillery in them comes at a pretty good points-price too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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