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I will ask my question in 3 parts.. I heard that in the event of a bailout either the commander of the tank or the gunner is in charge of the thompson, while the others didn't have a weapon or maybe colt .45s. Some of the vets maybe kept revolvers from North Africa? Did these tankers use the drum version ONLY? Are there any tankers that carry the grease gun? If not why not? Were they allowed grenades?

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Here is the stuff I can think of for Axis, that was in fact in the bulge. Half-Tracks All of the Sdkfzs you could imagine.. There were tons of models made from ones with cannons and rockets to flame throwers. Tanks stugg iii g panzer iv J,G,H grille panther G jagdpanzer38(t) panzer iv/70 stuh 42 jagdpanther Cannons leIG18 inf Gun AT Gun pak 75/40 AT Gun pak 43 (88) AT Gun

Sure it's range on the later models says 100 - 150m, but do you honestly think anyone could hit anything the size of a tank with it at that range past 50 meters would be insanely low chance of a hit.

The French resistance/army were given some Grants or Lee's by the US during ww2 that were no longer used when the sherman took over, what battles they ever saw is unknown

Panzerfausts had terrible range but it could destroy any allied tank. They were very difficult to hit close targets on the move and at still targets at ranges even over 40 meters away. Many many panzerfausts were produced luckily the majority of it's users were ,kids, teens and old men during the bulge. There was a panzerfaust 150 made as well. They are still being produced today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust_3 Here are some specs DesignationWeightPropellant weightWarhead ØProjectile speed VmaxEffective rangePenetration performanceFaustpatrone 302.7–3.2 kg70 g100 mm28 m/s30 m140 mmPanzerfaust 306.9 kg95–100 g149 mm30 m/s30 m200 mmPanzerfaust 608.5 kg120–134 g149 mm45 m/s60 m200 mmPanzerfaust 1009.4 kg190–200 g149 mm60 m/s100 m200 mmPanzerfaust 1506.5 kg190–200 g106 mm85 m/s150 m280–320 mm

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wact am rhein a good bulge game as well • The Battle of The Bulge, by John Toland, Random House, 1966. • Battle: The Story of the Bulge, by John Toland, Bison Books, 1999 • Skorzeny’s Secret Missions, by Otto Skorzeny, translated by Jacques Le Clercq, Dutton, 1951. • Hitler’s Ardennes Offensive: The German View of The Battle of The Bulge, by Danny Parker, Green Hill Books, 1997. • A Time for Trumpets, by Charles B. MacDonald, Quill, 1985. World War II, by Ivor Matanle, Quadrillion, 1989. • Ghost Front, The Ardennes Before The Battle of the Bulge, Charles Whiting, 2002 • The Ardennes: Battle of the Bulge, by Hugh M. Cole, Konecky & Konecky • The Ardennes Offensive, U.S. V Corps & XVIII (Airborne) Corps, Northern Sector, by Bruce Quarrie, Osprey Publishing, 1999 • Ardennes 1944, Hitler’s Last Gamble in the West, by James R. Arnold, Osprey Publishing Ltd, 1990 • Battle of the Bulge 1944 (2), by Steven J. Zaloga, Osprey Publishing Ltd, 2004 • Panzers in Winter, Hitler’s Armey and the Battle of the Bulge, by Samuel W. Mitcham, Jr., Stackpole Books, 2006 • The Battle of the Bulge, by William Goolrick, Time-Life Books, 1979. • Tanks of World War Two, by Chris Ellis, 1981.

Here are some good Bulge books • The Battle of The Bulge, by John Toland, Random House, 1966. • Battle: The Story of the Bulge, by John Toland, Bison Books, 1999 • Skorzeny’s Secret Missions, by Otto Skorzeny, translated by Jacques Le Clercq, Dutton, 1951. • Hitler’s Ardennes Offensive: The German View of The Battle of The Bulge, by Danny Parker, Green Hill Books, 1997. • A Time for Trumpets, by Charles B. MacDonald, Quill, 1985. World War II, by Ivor Matanle, Quadrillion, 1989. • Ghost Front, The Ardennes Before The Battle of the Bulge, Charles Whiting, 2002 • The Ardennes: Battle of the Bulge, by Hugh M. Cole, Konecky & Konecky • The Ardennes Offensive, U.S. V Corps & XVIII (Airborne) Corps, Northern Sector, by Bruce Quarrie, Osprey Publishing, 1999 • Ardennes 1944, Hitler’s Last Gamble in the West, by James R. Arnold, Osprey Publishing Ltd, 1990 • Battle of the Bulge 1944 (2), by Steven J. Zaloga, Osprey Publishing Ltd, 2004 • Panzers in Winter, Hitler’s Armey and the Battle of the Bulge, by Samuel W. Mitcham, Jr., Stackpole Books, 2006 • The Battle of the Bulge, by William Goolrick, Time-Life Books, 1979. • Tanks of World War Two, by Chris Ellis, 1981.

The TO&E List Must be huge, why? Well for the American side every vehicle that was used in the beginning of the war is still being used plus the entrance of the chafee, jackson, m4a3e2(Jumbo Sherman) hellcat, Easy 8 and more. Patton arrives in the operation with some heavy stuff as well finally. Not sure what KG Peiper has.. I have the strategy game Close Combat: Wact Am Rhein from Matrix and lists all vehicles and half-tracks from both sides used pretty accurately in the bulge theater.

yeah you need to have trees on, its a moot point..

Makes sense

well take a look at german armor it can takeout easily towed with jeep or truck easy to all troop defenses with HE troops with HE all german half tracks with AP all trucks, armored cars and regular cars just about all dug in emplacements buildings - stone, brick or wooden german tanks up to the mark iv on sides or rear and possibly higher models with AP or APC

Found my answer from one of my books. It was in fact in the European theater for some time.. "By the time the M3A1 had been taken into service it was obsolete. By 1941 events elsewhere had demonstrated that something larger than 37 mm (1.46 in) would be required to penetrate the armored hides of in service enemy tanks and although the M3A1 was used in North Africa by the US Army the type was withdrawn there and replaced by heavier guns, But it was different in the Pacific theater. There the expected enemy tanks were light (and in any event few and far between), so a place could be found for the M3A1 as an infantry support weapon. High explosive and canister rounds were developed for use during the various island-hopping campaigns and the armour-piercing projectiles were often called upon during 'bunker-busting' operations." This was probably why..... "Although the European war had shown it tobe obsolete, the 37-mm M3 was still in US Army use at the Kasserine Pass in 1943, where its inadequacy against the veteran Afrika Korps armour was disastrous. It was soon to be withdrawn from the European theatre." So if the failure at Kasserine Pass did it in, and this was the case why didn't they remove the stuart and greyhound from the European theater which had the gun??

Are you kidding me? Although it was 37mm it was still high velocity.. Extremely maneuverable as well. For heavy armor you had to be at sides or rear big deal?

Mistake for the people who decided to phase it out. It could have been used well in Normandy. I like it for half-tracks.. I would set it up on a road junction watching for vehicles crossing down the street

Are they just missing from the game? Or were there historically few pieces in the theatre? Was it really that bad against tanks in North Africa? I could put the gun to great use in the game.

I just noticed this. Why do the tankers have GI helmets on and not tanker helmets?

Don't know if it is true but the gunner has to adjust a lot of instruments before the first shell leaves after that it should fire quicker.

No the game is missing some.. training ground fantasy or not they were used..... There are 3 main types of rifle grenades that were used. 1. M17 Contact Grenade, regular launched hand grenade with contact fuse, explodes on hard surface 2. Airburst Fuse (Above picture) regular launched hand grenade explodes above ground with certain angle measured with sling. I don't know if the fuse can be set or it is all the same time in seconds since it's a regular hand grenade. Could be arced over hedgerows and dug in troops in fields for above ground burst. 3. M9A1 AT Grenade, hard surface contact HEAT. Used on armor but, could also be used on sandbags, wooden houses, logs, some thin concrete emplacements all3.lnk

US M9A1 Anti Armor rifle grenade, waaaay long over due. Airburst version too

Patton to the rescue?

@ bulletpoint I don't think so... In REAL life anyways... Bulletpoint was not talking about going through vision slits but armor penetration, Besides do you know how hard it is to penetrate a vision slit with a spray and pray smg like the mp-40?? Good way to waste ammo/get KIA trying and virtually impossible. penetrating armor sides with the 9mm smg no go as well @ Mikey I believe the .45 story on the m3s.. But US half-tracks don't compare to greyhounds..

would an mp-40 even pop the tire on a greyhound? If so I think the thing could drive with like 4 flats

. On the topic of the original poster, the 37mm found on stuart and greyhound is firing canister (50cal I think) which are just steel balls, it's an anti - troop weapon. Mg-42 looses a lot of power over distance..