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Removed. Pointless responding to MAGA brainworm infections.

Fundamentally this is a thread about the Russo-Ukraine war that is (unsurprisingly) pro-Ukrainian. So the U.S. political party that refused to bring aid to a vote is going to catch the most flak here. And like yea AOC might be destructive to some process but she isn't destructive to getting Ukraine the materials the country needs to fight the Russian invasion. The House vote tally was overwhelming for aid so why wasn't there a vote on the aid 6 months ago?

Like I don't want to talk about gun rights, or schools, or abortion, or any number of other U.S. hot button topics. But I've been sitting here for ~6 months watching as one particular party refused to allow Ukraine what it needs. And frankly I'm not an unbiased observer about this and its one of the reasons I stepped away from the thread for a while. Its hard to come in here to hear and see bad news about the war and then be non-partisan about the partisan politics that are getting Ukrainians killed. Like if you trawl this thread you will see video evidence on nearly every page of real soldiers and civilians who died needlessly for some partisan BS.

 
 

Removed. Pointless responding to MAGA brainworm infections.

Removed. Pointless responding to MAGA brainworm infections.

This is a right wing anti EV trope that Erwin is throwing into the pot, as is his Hydrogen BS as a viable (it's not) alternative to EVs.
He has been watching too much FOX news and has made a Mish mash post...
I bet if I spent some time down a dark rabbit hole I could find the people spewing this nonsense...
But of course Erwin could back up his post with some proof and prove us wrong...

When the unified right wing National Corps slate only manages to get something like 2.5% of the total vote in Ukraine while rightest parties dominate Russia then this discussion gets very silly. 

It's ironic that you exactly prove your point by posting an outrage-farming video by someone with a clear political bias watching a video by someone else with a political bias (who misrepresents what people say and asks leading questions) rather than actual data. I will not discuss US politics as I am not American, it is off-topic and it will just lead to a ****-show, so consider this post in the vein of how to form evidence-based opinions, which has been a central point of discussion over the past few pages.
Here is an actual study on this topic. Note how they outline their methodology and openly discuss the limitations of the study. You are also free to decide for yourself if these are meaningful when spread out over the entire population (though you would really need to look more closely at local situations given the way the electoral system works).
WHO LACKED PHOTO ID IN 2020?: An Exploration of the American National Election Studies

Dear eurofriends, do you perhaps have a recreational light aircraft you aren’t currently using on hand?

Dear eurofriends, do you perhaps have a recreational light aircraft you aren’t currently using on hand?

Oh for God's sake, are we still engaging with this guy? 
Cmon,  that last post ("rigged elections in the US") pretty much seals the political troll label. 

I hope our duty to warn policy has some sort of provision for being blamed for the act after warning that removes the duty to warn in the future.

IS does not function as a monolithic group that way.

Tucker Carlson will soon note how incredibly efficient the press in Russia is compared to backwards America.

He's frustrated, understandably.  No reason to accuse him of right-wing talking points as if he is spouting Tuckerisms. 
This thread tends to get way over dramatic too often.

$75 billion in aid and the coordination of another $54 billion or so from our allies but hey, what have you done for me lately? 
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts
Which is another way to say that if you are concentrating on particular weapons systems  instead of aggregate economic/military/diplomatic aid than I think you are doing it wrong. 
And on that note, I'm going to head out to a very excellent dive bar of my acquaintance with some friends and drink to the $450 million or so that some old pro-Putin bastard lost in court in NY today. 
Cheers.

Tucker Carlson will soon note how incredibly efficient the press in Russia is compared to backwards America.

WTF are you even talking about???  Biden admin has been trying to get more aid to UKR and it's blocked by a group of GOP house members.  This is common knowledge to anyone w any concept of reality.  Have you been watching fox news & newsmax again?   You, once again, come up with fantasy world nonsense.  And instead of getting mad at me for this post, maybe you should be angry at the people how fill your head w this utter nonsense.

Tucker Carlson will soon note how incredibly efficient the press in Russia is compared to backwards America.

Regarding Trump, hi from Latin America (Argentina) land of great football and sometimes populist egomaniacs...
I´ll just paste something I wrote in January of 2017 on another forum:
"Coming from a country with it´s fair share of populists in it´s history, let me tell you a couple of things about what will happen:

First: it´s not about policies, it´s not about facts, now it´s only about power and how to keep it

Second: the only thing that will be rewarded is loyalty, it may or may not align with skills, it doesn't matter any more

Third: it´s not about liberal and conservative, It´s not about democrat or republican, now it´s about trump or anti trump, there will be no middle ground to hide, both coalitions will have members of previous coalitions, those won´t matter much anymore, more republicans will be on Trump´s coalition because he was elected as one of course

Fourth: his only objective is reelection, and after that a third mandate, and a fourth and so on, to this end he will push any policy he deems useful, left wing or right wing, won´t matter, he sometimes will be align with former liberal/democrat ideas, he will take ownership of anything that promotes him, claiming it was his idea all along

Fifth: any source of check and balances will be targeted as traitorous, anti american, etc., this includes the press, other parties, the supreme court, whatever, anyone he sees as a member of the anti trump coalition is now a target, for now of rhetoric only, time will tell how far he will be allowed to go, and don´t think for a second there is something he won't do, or that he has any moral limit, he doesn't

Good luck trying to rationalize his government into anything other than an ego trip

His only weak point is succession, like every populists he hates the idea of giving power up, to anyone, even his children, he won´t groom a successor and get mad every time this point comes up

I sincerely hope current checks and balances work, but I´m not optimistic, lots of people will come under the spell, it´s tough times for anyone that can´t escape facts, reason, science, for those are now the enemies of the US government."
 
Not spot on in every point, but It came close to happen the first time around, now he has evolved and learned, it will be worst.
The paradox is that it was in the hands of Republican Senators to impeach and keep him out of office for good, they failed.
 
 

He wasn’t there for a serious journalistic interview, which is why he was granted an interview where all other western journalists have been denied (despite trying).
 
lol, possibly “non-literal commentary” doesn’t prepare you that well
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

Weren’t you given a warning about trolling? Dumb move by an ignorant Canadian politician. Had nothing to do with Zelensky or Trudeau directly.

He wasn’t there for a serious journalistic interview, which is why he was granted an interview where all other western journalists have been denied (despite trying).
 
lol, possibly “non-literal commentary” doesn’t prepare you that well
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

Weren’t you given a warning about trolling? Dumb move by an ignorant Canadian politician. Had nothing to do with Zelensky or Trudeau directly.

He wasn’t there for a serious journalistic interview, which is why he was granted an interview where all other western journalists have been denied (despite trying).
 
lol, possibly “non-literal commentary” doesn’t prepare you that well
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

Brothers don’t invade brothers bro.