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What is that in shot #11? A Pupchen?

Ah, That wasn't BoB. You made a good point though about photography.

As I read the tea leaves, Battlefront doesn't offer a pre-order on digital only as it sees no advantage to do so. Pre-orders on disks gives them some idea of how many disks to produce. I can understand Battlefront not wanting to do pre-order on digital only in return for a discount as they believe they can sell thier new products without a discount. Discounts are only available in bundles and older products. I think some customers however don't care about a pre-order discount and would like to pre-order in order to beat the crowd and download before the servers are swamped.

Canadians and Polish will be included along with the Brits. For the rest, there is a desire by Battlefront to include them in future "Battlepacks". Battlepacks are like modules but rather than concentrating on a theme, can include whatever Battlefront wishes. Again there is also a desire to include a Battlepack to extend the game to the end of the war but there is NO guarantee if it will occur. I would, however, guess it is way too late to extend the end date of Gustav Line even slightly at this point in the development process.

Really, do you think going to war with Germany AND the Soviet Union would be a good idea? As one Republican politician recently stated "Martyrdom for ideological purity is for suicide bombers"

Sometimes you just have to imagine that what you saw is not really the way it happened but only an approximation of the event.

I recall reading in an old issue of Strategy and Tactics the Germans referred to the Italian AM ration as Old Man (Alter Mann) and the Italians refered to it as Dead Donkey. (A-something Morte) sorry I don't remember the exact word.

Patience, they'll be around. They're busy making games.

I can't wait to see GaJ's reaction when he sees those Abrams cresting the hill.

The word is SS, Free French, Indians, post May '44 vehicles and/or other forces MAY be included in one or more "Battlepacks" some time in the future. The plan is these Battlepacks will contain various odds and ends at Battlefronts discretion. They will be easier to get out than a module and priced according to how much content they contain.

And Thomas the Tank Engine.

True, but only if you don't count the Stuart tank haunted by its namesake general.

I suppose I should have mentioned they needed to be renamed of course. PS: Hister, when you say the textures have changed, does that mean the 3d models have changed?

Hello all, I was looking into the possibility of using 1.* uniform mods in 2.* and have come to the conclusion it will not work because: 1. You need a matching map layer. 2. The neck area appears different. Do I have this right? Thanks

Is there anything special about the 92nd infantry division?

Well it's obvious where I'm going with this: Will the CMFI Canadians and Brits be in shorts in Sicily?

Just wondering how common British soldiers in short trousers that one sees in photos actually was, and if they wore them in Sicily and the Italian mainland?

Out of curiosity did the FSJ ever have a "tropical" uniform such as the Herman Goering division had?

I clicked on the screens and videos area to the left once I was in the Gustav Line page.

The Fallschirmjaegers are looking really good, as is the Elefant. I liked the series of shots showing the seasons changing, but it was odd to see the one shot of snow on the ground nearby, but not in the mountains.

Found them-Thanks.

Hmm, I was just going through the scenario editor, and I can't actually find the Caro Comando M41 and M42, though they were mentioned in the Basegame preview list of vehicles. Did they not make the final cut or am I totally overlooking them in the editor?

No I didn't forget Italy CMFI________________________CMAK Italian Army RENAULT R35_________________Renault MR-35 L5/21_______________________L5/21 (Fiat 3000A) L5/30_______________________L5/30 (Fiat 3000B) L3/33_______________________L3/33 L3/35_______________________L3/35 SEMOVENTE 90/53_____________Autocannone da 90/53 SEMOVENTE 75/18 M41 SEMOVENTE 75/18 M42 ________Semovente M42 da 75/18 SEMOVENTE 47/32_____________Semovente L40 da 47/32 CARO COMANDO M41 CARO COMANDO M42 AB41 ________________________Autoblinda 41 AS42 20MM AA________________Autosahariana 42 Flak AS42 2X BREDA 8MM___________Autosahariana 42 AS42 SOLOTHURN ATR__________Autosahariana 42 PzB AS42 CANNONE DA 47/32________Autosahariana 42 Pak FIAT 626 NM__________________Truck Not in CMFI _____________________________L3/33 (FlaK) _____________________________Autocannone da 20/65 _____________________________Panzer III N _____________________________Panzer IV H _____________________________Sturmgeschütz III G (early mid) _____________________________Semovente M43 da 105/25 _____________________________Semovente M42 da 75/32 _____________________________Carro Armato L6/40 _____________________________Carro Armato M13/40 Either Steve or Normal Dude told us most of the better Italian Armor and loaned German AFVs were lost in Tunisia or kept on the Mainland and never fought in Sicily or for Fascist Italy on the Boot itself, which probably covers the "missing" Italian vehicles.

I'm sure there's other vehicles like it that CMAK had available in the timeframe. I really doubt the PzJg I and the different types of Pz IIs (except possibly the Lynx) ever fought in Italy, nor did some of the earlier types of Pz IIIs and IVs. I'm confident the research for CMFI etc is better than what CMAK had, if for no other reason than having much less time and area to cover. But more than that, I think Battlefront has accumulated more Grogs in their "stable" of beta testers if I can call it that.

CMFI______________________________CMAK German Forces PZ IVG LATE________________________Panzer IV G PZ IVG LATEST______________________Panzer IV G (late) PZ IVH EARLY_______________________Panzer IV H PZ VIA TIGER EARLY_________________Tiger (Pz VI E early) PZ IIIM____________________________Panzer III M (late) PZIIIN_____________________________Panzer III N MARDER II__________________________Marder II STUG IIIF/8_________________________ Sturmgeschütz III F/8 STUG IIIG EARLIEST___________________Sturmgeschütz III G (early) STUG IIIG EARLY______________________Sturmgeschütz III G (mid) STUH 42 EARLY_______________________Sturmhaubitze StuH 42 (early) GRILLE AUSF. H_______________________Grille (sIG 33 auf Pz38t) SDKFZ 24 WESPE______________________Wespe PSW 221_____________________________PSW 221 (late) PSW 222_____________________________PSW 222 PSW 223_____________________________PSW 223 PSW 231_____________________________PSW 231 PSW 233_____________________________PSW 233 SDKFZ 250/1 SPW_____________________SPW 250/1 SDKFZ 250/3 HQ/SIGNAL SDKFZ 250/10 37MM PAK_______________SPW 250/10 KUBELWAGEN STAFF CAR_______________Kübelwagen OPEL BLITZ TRUCK_____________________Truck PROTZE 70 Gustav Line Sturmpanzer IV Brummbar_______________Brummbär (Sturmpanzer IV, early) Nashorn_____________________________Nashorn Elefant______________________________Elefant (PzJg Tiger) Sdkfz 7/1 20mm FLAK__________________SdKfz 7/1 Flak (early) Sdkfz 7/2 37mm FLAK__________________SdKfz 7/2 Flak (early) Panzer Va___________________________Panther (Pz V A early) Jagdpanzer IV________________________Jagdpanzer IV (early) Marder IIIm__________________________ Marder III M SPW 251//1 __________________________SPW 251/1 SDKFZ 251/2 MORTAR CARRIER___________SPW 251/2 SDKFZ 251/3 HQ/SIGNAL SDKFZ 251/10 37MM PAK_______________SPW 251/10 The exact types of SPW 251's in Gustav line were not listed and this is a guess on my part based on what was in CMFI. Not listed at this time: __________________________________Panzerjäger I __________________________________Panzer II C __________________________________Panzer II F __________________________________Lynx (Pz II L) __________________________________Marder II (early) __________________________________Marder III ® __________________________________Marder III H __________________________________Grille (sIG 33/1 auf Pz38t) __________________________________Panzer III J (short) __________________________________Panzer III J (short, late) __________________________________Panzer III J __________________________________Panzer III J (late) __________________________________Panzer III L __________________________________Panzer III N (late) __________________________________Sturmgeschütz III F __________________________________Sturmgeschütz III F (late) __________________________________Sturmgeschütz III G (early mid) __________________________________Sturmgeschütz III G (late mid) __________________________________Sturmgeschütz III G (late) __________________________________Sturmgeschütz IV __________________________________Sturmgeschütz IV (late) __________________________________Sturmhaubitze StuH 42 (mid) __________________________________Sturmhaubitze StuH 42 (late) __________________________________Panzer IV D __________________________________Panzer IV E __________________________________Panzer IV F __________________________________Panzer IV F2 __________________________________Panzer IV G (early) __________________________________Panzer IV J __________________________________Jagdpanzer IV(mid) __________________________________Brummbär (Sturmpanzer IV, mid) __________________________________Brummbär (Sturmpanzer IV, late) __________________________________Hummel __________________________________Panther (Pz V D) __________________________________Panther (Pz V D late) __________________________________Panther (Pz V A) __________________________________Panther (Pz V G) __________________________________Panther (Pz V G late) __________________________________Tiger (Pz VI E) __________________________________Tiger (Pz VI E late) __________________________________Pz M15/42 738(i) __________________________________Semovente M42 da 75/18 __________________________________Semovente M42 da 75/32 __________________________________Semovente M43 da 105/25 __________________________________PSW 221 (late) __________________________________PSW 222 (late) __________________________________PSW 232 __________________________________SPW 250/8 __________________________________SPW 250/9 __________________________________SPW 250/11 __________________________________SPW 251/9 Stummel __________________________________SPW 251/16 __________________________________SPW 251/17 __________________________________PSW 223 (late) __________________________________SPW 250/7 __________________________________SdKfz 7 __________________________________SdKfz 6/2 Flak __________________________________SdKfz 7/1 Flak (late) __________________________________SdKfz 7/2 Flak (late) __________________________________SdKfz 10/4 Flak (early) ___________________________________SdKfz 10/4 Flak The German list of vehicles in CMAK but not listed at this time for CMFI (and possibly available before June '44 ) is more extensive. I'm almost certain, however, that some of the early German AFVs mentioned for CMAK never existed in Italy. I also assume Battlefront may not have listed every variation of StuG and Panzer V we will be getting yet. Also it could be there were not enough Brummbars in Italy for there to even be early mid and late variants. As for captured Italian vehicles, I don't have any knowledge.