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Kanonier Reichmann gets the prize (thanks, Jim). I was thinking of it as a separate issue to the starting point of this thread. I'm assuming that we've got a Nabla system that deals with the issues raised by Malakovski, GaJ and others and simply asking whether a Nabla score of, for example, 0.50 for Maleme should be worth as much as a 0.50 scored in Moltke. Or should the Maleme score be multiplied by a factor (0.75, for the sake of argument) giving a revised Nabla score of 0.375, to reflect the far smaller number of points 'on the board' to be either gained or lost in achieving the raw percentage scores which Nabla works from. This would be applied across the board, regardless of which side you were playing and different scenarios would have different multipliers, dependant on their 'size' relationship with the largest (Moltke in this case). I'm not saying that achieving 0.50 in Maleme was 'easier' than Moltke, simply that each point scored for kills/VL's in the smaller game had a greater impact on the final % scores than in Moltke (which in itself might have contributed to the 'imbalance' of Maleme??) and perhaps some correction should be made for that when determining the overall score. Ok, this may still be bollocks, but it now has numbers in, so it's officially more scientific. Does it make any sense?

This is a fascinating thread and without really understanding the detail, it does seem that flatter would be better (perhaps because I would have finished equal 27th, rather than 28th overall ) One thing that I've been pondering is whether all scenarios should be treated equally when Nabla scores are being generated. What I mean is, shouldn't each scenario's contribution to the overall Nabla score for a player be weighted based on the number of points in the scenario? This may be bollocks - I've been trying to make this post make sense for 10 minutes and I'm not sure I've succeeded. It just seems fairer to the total score for a player that scenarios with fewer points have proportionately less impact on the overall score, but I seem unable to express this logically! Does anybody agree and more importantly if you do, can you express it in a more scientific fashion

This sounds interesting. All the blurb brought back memories of a game called Herzog Zwei that I used to have for the Sega Megadrive. Anybody remember that? I think it was the first game I ever played where you issued orders to units, rather than controlling them directly and you carried them onto the battlefield via some kind of transport ship. Not sure realistic physics was high on the games list of features though Happy memories - apart from the fact that it used to crash the whole time.

Don't get up yet Kingfish, because I'm on turn 3 with him as well! As Elmar mentioned he has had RL issues of the serious and life-changing variety and I know that he was hoping to sort himself out and get things back on track, but I think we've reached the point of no return. I suspect mpisi & Flenser will be along shortly to tell you that they're in the same boat.

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When I was learning the mechanics of this game, trying to establish tin-pot dictatorship hegemony in Central America as Costa Rica, I got invaded by an Australian armoured division in 1937! I would suggest that its value as a modelling tool is questionable

Aside from amusing myself with the thought of staging a landing in various Cornish locations (Fowey, in particular, would be fun to watch), I'm left wondering about The Scilly Isles in this equation. 25 miles from Penzance, presumably poorly defended in the summer of 1940 - wouldn't they have made an ideal staging post for this proposed invasion of Cornwall? Take them, base your aircraft there and you're in business.

Jim Message received. Sorry to hear about that. Hope you get it fixed soon. Graham

The double-printing of counters in AH games caused it's own problems on occasion. It took me a couple of years to realise that my brother and I were playing with both sets in Stalingrad - my that map was crowded Afrika Korps was my 2nd ever purchase - great game, although my favourite was (and still is) Ceasar.

I acknowledge receipt of my call-up papers. I have kissed the girlfriend goodbye and am currently en route to the 'front'. I will establish communications with my opponents this evening and should have files flowing by tomorrow.

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I have just this minute returned from a secret mission your Queenliness, for the Evil one himself. It’s obviously extremely hush-hush and I shouldn’t really be talking about it, but since it’s just us here I don’t really see the harm. Well, how best to put this…………….suffice to say that for some time there has been concern about the ……errrr……potency of the ……well not to put to fine a point on it, the Evil One’s fires, as it were. More ‘pooooff’ than ‘phwoarrr’ if you catch my drift. Many therapies, for want of a better word, have been explored in an effort to stir the embers back to life (dear Nidan’s drag act being the latest), but all to no avail. I’m hopeful though that the……….ummm……’fuel’ which I have returned with today (scraped at some personal risk to myself off the pointy front end of a certain well known African mammal I might add) will see the Evil fires back in full working order very shortly. Anyway, so much for euphemism. It’s nice to be back in a sordid and desparate kind of way. How’s everybody doing?

It's so refreshing to find an older gentleman getting in touch with his feminine side. You go girl!

It's not often that I get an opportunity to wind up a policeman without any fear of being asked to 'step out of the vehicle sir'. So Gary, I just thought you'd like to know that the CDV CMAK delivery van finally made it into Leicester today and I dutifully wandered into town, whistling a happy tune at lunch-time, to purchase a copy. If I get stopped on the M69 this weekend I'll know you've got friends in high places.

I would love to see some scenarios dealing with the December 1940 Operation Compass battles.

Lou Just to let you know that Firefly and I are still grinding each other into the powdery snow in our ‘those who finished 2nd in the 1st round’ match. There may well be a ‘phone call to the NGC (NOWT Gamey Commission) on this one though as I am currently attempting to hold 2 flags with one Stug! Count me in for any CMAK tourney and a thumbs-up for an expansion of the team aspect. Ideas for consideration or binning: Teams rather than individuals go through to the next round (you’d need more than 4 teams I guess).Trust a 1st round loser to think of this one. Each match is divided into four 7 or 8 turn sections (if there are 4 per team) and each player plays one section of each of the 4 matches being played against the opposing team and on each swap to the next game comes up against a different member of the opposition. Does that make sense????????????? Both these ideas seemed like real winners when I thought of them in the bath the other night. Thanks for organising NOWT.

What do you think? Too much?

I’ve been saving my 100th post for something ‘special’ and even though I hate you all with a vehemence usually reserved for old ladies in Marks & Spencer blocking my path to the sandwich aisle at lunch-time (I mean, they can shop at any time and their bladders wake them up at 6.30am every day. They could be on the bus by 8:00, in town for when the shops open and back at home asleep in their favourite chair before 12:30 when the office worker population of the world begins its daily feeding frenzy (apart from those addled souls who get on the wrong bus by mistake and end up in a housing estate on the other side of town of course – but at least they’d be wandering aimlessly somewhere else). Instead they inhabit the aisles of supermarkets between 12:30-14:30, walking at tangential angles to the rest of the population, occasionally stopping in their tracks as they remember what it was Albert said in the Anderson shelter on October 8th 1940 that made them all laugh, oblivious to the pile-up of humanity that they leave in their wake) Sorry, where was I? Oh yes, I thought the best place to share good news was here where the warm welcome guaranteed by the slow roasting of SSN’s in the basement never loses it’s appeal. Australian Research Now, <big>SOD OFF</big> the lot of you, or if you’d prefer to <big>TOSS OFF</big> do so in the knowledge that it might just save your life. Edited to say: Perfect timing Elvis! [ July 17, 2003, 07:56 AM: Message edited by: Nestor ]

The Dante's Inferno Test has banished you to the Sixth Level of Hell - The City of Dis! Here is how you matched up against all the levels: <table cellspacing="1" style="margin: 5px; background-color: #000000; border: none; font: 10pt arial, verdana, 'sans serif';"><tr style="font: bold 12pt arial, verdana, 'sans serif'; text-align: center; color: #ffffff; background-color: #333333;"><th>Level</th><th>Score</th></tr><tr style=background-color: #220033; color: #eeeeee;"><td style="padding: 4px;">Purgatory (Repenting Believers)</td><td style=color: #3344bb; background-color: #333333; padding: 4px;">Very Low</td></tr><tr style="background-color: #110022; color: #eeeeee;"><td style="padding: 4px;">Level 1 - Limbo (Virtuous Non-Believers)</td><td style=color: #4466dd; background-color: #333333; padding: 4px;">Low</td></tr><tr style="background-color: #220011; color: #eeeeee;"><td style="padding: 4px;">Level 2 (Lustful)</td><td style=color: #c40033; background-color: #333333; padding: 4px;">Very High</td></tr><tr style="background-color: #330011; color: #eeeeee;"><td style="padding: 4px;">Level 3 (Gluttonous)</td><td style=color: #aa33aa; background-color: #333333; padding: 4px;">Moderate</td></tr><tr style="background-color: #440011; color: #eeeeee;"><td style="padding: 4px;">Level 4 (Prodigal and Avaricious)</td><td style=color: #3344bb; background-color: #333333; padding: 4px;">Very Low</td></tr><tr style="background-color: #550011; color: #eeeeee;"><td style="padding: 4px;">Level 5 (Wrathful and Gloomy)</td><td style=color: #aa33aa; background-color: #333333; padding: 4px;">Moderate</td></tr><tr style="background-color: #660011; color: #eeeeee;"><td style="padding: 4px;">Level 6 - The City of Dis (Heretics)</td><td style=color: #c40033; background-color: #333333; padding: 4px;">Very High</td></tr><tr style="background-color: #770011; color: #eeeeee;"><td style="padding: 4px;">Level 7 (Violent)</td><td style=color: #ff1133; background-color: #333333; padding: 4px;">High</td></tr><tr style="background-color: #880011; color: #eeeeee;"><td style="padding: 4px;">Level 8- the Malebolge (Fraudulent, Malicious, Panderers)</td><td style=color: #aa33aa; background-color: #333333; padding: 4px;">Moderate</td></tr><tr style="background-color: #990011; color: #eeeeee;"><td style="padding: 4px;">Level 9 - Cocytus (Treacherous)</td><td style="color: #ff1133; background-color: #333333; padding: 4px;">High</td></tr></table> Take the Dante's Divine Comedy Inferno Test You take one stupid test and look where you end up!!! Good to see that me and the Evil one are still singing from the same hymn sheet though. It appears between the 2 of us we've got all the 'good' stuff covered. My best to The Ladies.

Firefly - set-up received. It will be back with you on Saturday morning (or what passes for Saturday morning in my house) Lou - It's not that I get a thrill out of kicking myself when I'm down and in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter, but I think my points should be 174 not 185. Or am I misundersatnding the scoring system? My game with Justin was good fun and included a beautifully executed ambush by my opponent as my impatient Germans took a short-cut down a hill. One knocked out halftrack, two destroyed 81mm mortar teams (oh how I could have done with those towards the end) two knackered squads and an eliminated platoon HQ later the birds started singing again and the remaining Germans gathered in a copse of trees to discuss tactics and agreed that they should really try to use some from now on!

Since we're talking about the pre Afrika Korps days of the desert campaign, I was looking at an interesting historical document the other day which dealt with the attacks in and around the Italian camps at Tummar in December 1940. According to what I was reading, the 1st Battalion of the Royal Fusiliers (I think) were taken into battle by bus on 8th December 1940 and didn't de-bus until within 70 yards of Italian machine gun positions!!! Oh alright, I'll come clean, I was 'reading' a 1976 issue of the Victor comic that I happen to have kept over the years (along with about 350 others). However, it was one of their 'True story of men at war' cover stories, so I'm guessing it has some basis in fact, especially since the detail dealt with a DCM awarded to a Corporal Cotton on that day. The buses depicted in the 'story' were your typical London buses of the time, but perhaps this was artistic licence. So, does anybody know anything about this? I haven't been able to find any references to it on the web (my search for 'buses at war' drew a blank) and most importantly, of course, if true will the buses be modelled in CMAK? [ May 08, 2003, 07:29 AM: Message edited by: Nestor ]

I can confirm that Justin and I are nearing the end credits. I can further confirm that I am getting a hammering of Burnleyesque proportions, so unless I get points for scratching the paint on a couple of T-34's I am not going to do a lot for team <FONT COLOR="#FF0000">RED</FONT> and its premiership push this round Edited because I finally worked out how to make RED <FONT COLOR="#FF0000">RED</FONT> [ April 29, 2003, 06:34 AM: Message edited by: Nestor ]

From too many youthful years spent reading The Victor on a Saturday (which always had some kind of Gurkha story going on)I seem to recall that once drawn the kukhri is not supposed to be sheathed until it has drawn blood. Obviously, given the source, this may be complete bollocks but it all adds to the Gurkha mystique

It'll be with you tomorrow evening Justin - too late to do it now, I'd probably pick all trucks or something.