Foobar

I hope to play some Iraq battles with CMSF. If it turns out that the units are not very realistic, I will still play pretend...

I don't think any of the designers look at this as a celebration of violence. Fully explicit war whoops may give it that perception to anyone playing the game, who has a personal connection to this current war, and for the reasons i explained in my post. I guess it doesnt matter, so Im not going to try to make you understand this. You can add them if they dont make it in. I can delete them the same way. Cheers (oh, and Im not ruddy- that is a sig)

As I read the posts here so far, I kind oscillated from one side to the other on this issue. The war whoops are certainly plausible. I think given the time period simulated, it makes sense that it could stir up emotional reactions in people to see and hear those taunts from either side. Many here have friends and family who were wounded, or who never came home from Iraq. There isnt any difference that I can see between "Allah Akbar", and "Put that in your pipe, Fritz!" back in the CMBO days, its just our personal connection to it. I find that speech by the British commander very inspiring, and reflective of the attitude I want to hold about war. I would urge Battlefront to avoid the taunts from either side, because although I can't fault anyone who actually fights from those reactions in the heat of the moment (with their own life on the line), I think we should steer away from celebrating kills while playing the game... We're all here because we enjoy combat sim. If anyone is looking for the blood and guts cam, I recommend Soldier of Fortune, or Blood II.. One thing I never thought about that sounds interesting- I wonder if Steve and the gang ever thought about simulating morale boost for troops while receiving close air support, etc in CMSF? Has that been discussed elsewhere? (No i wont do a search) F

Hey we CHOSE to exit early... We didnt want to embaress all the other teams by actually USING all the talent we had assembled. Give us another 15 years, and we will be back to squander the opportunity once again.. Cheers!

I really hope that Bradley was unoccupied.

Don't threaten me with a good time Sixx! I'll pull a turn 29 flag rush on you so quick, it'll make your head spin!

Ahem, I am coming in to the 'pool this evening, a prodigal child, and a mutha beautiful member 'of council' so to speak, with abandoned PBEM files 4 years old... I thought it worth mentioning that there is NO entry for Peng, or for Mutha' beautiful, on Wikipedia, which we all know, is the empirical and final source for human knowledge in our time. Who will answer the challenge and relay the Peng Thread History and Culture, to be saved for posterity in a server farm? I ask you, having forgetten the standing protocols... who will step up and take this challenge?? Dastardly Yours, Foobar

Personally I miss the black background and light blue forums.... Guys, I am STILL lobbying the powers that be to get a "Chance Encounter" remake for CM:SF when it comes out... We could have an old-timer CMSF tournament, playing nothing but "Last Defense" and "Chance Encounter" scenario remakes..

You wish, Senoochi.... I may lurk, but I live on! see if I dont!

Oh, and J Ruddy, thanks so much for the new sig! Comedy Gold!

Zoidberg, I for one would never jump you. Only in the cesspool, and only if you asked for it.... I hold you in the highest regard sir, as do the others here, and I am reasonably certain that you come from fine stock. If I am wrong about your lineage, then I am reasonably certain that your good character will make up for the difference. And if I overestimated your character, then well, at least I have to admit you are a snappy dresser. If you dress poorly, there is little left, but your good sense to visit these forums, which is really all I have going for me. Well met sir, huzzah! (But I still hate consoles. Hate the game, not the gamer or somefink)

Most joking aside, I think we just fear/dislike change, unless we somehow know intuitively that the change will be awesomer. I look forward to trying the RT mode, and hope that I/we can keep up, and play the game to a smart tactical level in realtime, the way we do in WeGo. But I think what I will never get tired of or outgrow from WeGo is the incredible thrill of watching your poor soldiers, like a commander, as they conquer, get slaughtered, and everything in between, with no "control" over those 60 second moments in time. But I recant all my previous statements about RTS, I am sure it will be great, and that most Military Historians and Mensa members approve of it. Maybe those energy drinks and baggy pants are good for you. But consoles still suck ass, sorry.

"Now, you WeGo bigots...." Steve, You, Charles, Moon, and Madmatt have made me what I am..... We are your children, and you have trained us well!!!!!

No, he would not, BUT, the big difference is that in REAL LIFE, you would have like 30-40 REAL BRAINS giving out orders in REAL TIME, and unfortunately when you play, its up to just you... Thats the bottleneck, you thinking for anywhere between 10-1000 people. Such is the tradeoff of trying to be the guy and simulate/control it all- we will see, maybe they will find a way to make the balance work.. but even with a magic balance that make Realtime play doable and fun, I like to eat a sandwich while i see explosions, and for that I will sit back and the time tested, blessed WEGO keep it real boyeeee

Well, I hope you guys are right..... I was always hoping that a lower forum# equated to innate CM skill, but I guess I will have to hope I have actually learned something, and apply myself in the heat of battle.. Bring it on Scott!! You are the diet coke of evil! Daddy loves you! Now stop looking at me like Im freakin Frankenstein over here!

OK, Maybe I havent been paying attention, or maybe I have jut been taking too much cough syrup... But it looks like CMSF will be real-time AND WEGO? wtf WEGO is how we kept all the haxxorz and Sony Wii people away from our clubhouse. Now all these twitchers are going to come in here with their energy drinks, and their Snowboarding jackets with buil-tin ipods, and pwn me at a game I call myself good at..... I intend to refuse to play RTS mode, and I am going to be a real snob about it. Plus, I can't eat while playing an RTS. I get all stressed out and in a bother... I can only imagine whats going to happen to space-time when I am playing WEGO against an RTS-er... Our AAR screen is going to pop out at the Hadron Accelerator in Switzerland, and we'll both be sitting there wondering what happened.... [ February 23, 2007, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: *Captain Foobar* ]

Thanks Kwazy, Could I make a request? We need the first demo scenario to be a remake of "Chance Encounter" or "Last Defense"! I think that might bring around more of the old curmudgeons like me! Long live Chance Encounter!!! Long live Last Defense!

I have to say guys, that after seeing some of these screenshots, I am actually starting to get excited about this game! I have had a grudge against the project getting away from the ww2 genre, but after I saw the 'random object' insert pics and a few of the models, all is forgiven! Bring on CMSF! [ December 23, 2006, 07:23 PM: Message edited by: KwazyDog ]

Yes Peng, it would have been best. Hope all is well, and do sod off...

Hey, where is Mr Peng these days? I havent been keeping up with the cesspool lately. Who in their right mind would? But in all queriousness, where is Mr Peng?

This is hilarious!

Tris, Battlefront are not a plural subject. Battlefront is a singular noun, a company to be exact. Hope this helps! Warm Regards, F

I think its a sad state of affairs that no-one has brought Mike Ditka into this yet....

Please email to me as well Franko- your August Bank Holiday was just about my favorite scenario of all time! Thanks!~ make that atlawson@gmail.com

I would say don't be afraid to lose a game, don't be afraid to be defeated. Take risks, and examine your opponent's tactics as if you were watching on the sidelines. Play boldly, and play Crazy Go Nuts The most useful thing is discussion after the game to dispel the FOW factor and talk about what actually happened. My favorite "sneaky" tactic was to tell a few squads of mine to "withdraw" behind a ridge. They were in the middle of a pretty heavy village firefight. Well, my opponent thought they had routed, and ran his squads full speed over the crest of the hill, only to get cut to pieces by my waiting squads. So the fake withdraw can come in handy every once in a while. But this result i just described is a happy accident. I was just displacing, I didnt think about ittricking him.