The Warrior Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Hey guys. I noticed when playing around with the editor there are no M4A3E2 Jumbo Shermans. What gives guys? Will it be added later on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 It wasn't present on the front lines in the time frame depicted. It will be in the Market Garden module. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warrior Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 Oh ok. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I think I only bought a Jumbo once in CM1, and it got zapped on about the third turn by a Faust. So much for its reputation as a tough tank. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shocker28 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 It's probably because its tank commander refused to be wrong when his crew told him, "Sir this is a bad idea." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I suppose I could play devils advocate and argue the Jumbo will not be in the Market Garden module if the Market Garden module is limited to only Market Garden forces. I would be greatly surprised if XXX Corps had any Jumbos. However I think the general belief is that the module will extend all forces to Sept '44 thus allowing scenarios in the Lorraine campaign as well. Also according to the CMBO database while the 75 Jumbo was available in September the 76 Jumbo doesn't appear until December thus we won't see it until the Bulge game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I honestly don't know if Jumbo will make it into 'Market Garden' per se or into the final vehicle pack. Pushing the title into September for the Market Garden module will move the game into Jumbo territory. Documents were found that put the ship carrying the Jumbos docking in mid-September, I (vaguely) recall. I recently stumbled across a line talking about orders to upgun Jumbo LATE December, so more likely seeing action in January. Its likely that Jumbo will come in for Market Garden to allow for reworking the official US TO&E. Wait til the vehicle pack and Jumbo might only come in as 'individual' vehicles. ...maybe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 "Vehicle pack" is an interesting idea... I recall excited (happy) discussion that CMBN would allow one to play SS vs Wermacht and all sorts of other "unrealistic" scenarios, that it seemed strange that effort was being made to only have the correct era weapons systems in a particular module so as to be "realstic." As a gamer, it's been frustrating to be denied access to lots of weapon systems. A vehicle/accessory pack module could be a great (and profitable for BF) solution so that those who enjoy the CM series as a game could enjoy the new toys, while the milpro/grog purists could stick with the base game as it would be more historical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I think the vehicles in the vehicle pack, or Battlepack as Steve called it, would be realistic for the timeframe, just not as common. For example here is a list I put together for German and US vehicles we might see in the Battlepack assuming we get flamethrowers and Flak by then. All these were present in theatre for the timeframe. I don't want to guess on Commonwealth yet since we have no idea as to what will be in the initial Commonwealth module. 15cm SiG 33 15cm SiG 33/1 Grille Flak Pz 38 Hummel Wespe Sturmpanzer IV Stug IV R-35 H-35 4.7 Pak auf 35r Marder II or Marder I according to Winkelried. Sdkfz 7 Sdkfz 10/4 20 mm Flak Sdkfz 7/2 37 mm Flak Sdkfz 7/1 4x20 mm Flak SPW 251/16 Flame Stuart Kangaroo White Scout car That being said I don't think Battlefront should be too anal about what not to include. They did give us the T-90 in CMSF even though it was debateable if Syria had any. PS this list assumes we get these with the Commonwealth module: King Tiger Jagdpanzer V Luchs And these with the Market Garden Module: Nashorn Hetzer Wirbelwind Sdkfz 234/3 M18 Hellcat Sherman Jumbo 75 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkelried Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 My list FFI: Citroen traction avante One variant with wood-gas engine Ciroen Rosalie My wishes for amphibious vehicles (as we now have water): DUKW Schwimmwagen Assault Boat/Sturmboot with a heavy engine and naturally A deployable pontoon bridge - imagine the scenario :-o And for Market Garden REAL PARACHUTES !!! Imagine the scenario:dropping tje guy on their chutes and then they have to.collect the material boxes In the same run BFC could also provide some real gliders gliding into the map Ok maybe a bit exaggeratin towards the end of this post ;-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkelried Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I think I only bought a Jumbo once in CM1, and it got zapped on about the third turn by a Faust. So much for its reputation as a tough tank. Michael I always preferred the M18 to the Jumbo. But that's probably a matter of taste. Hope we'll see this lonely U.S. cat soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I always preferred the M18 to the Jumbo. But that's probably a matter of taste. Hope we'll see this lonely U.S. cat soon. I'm pretty sure Steve mentioned that it will be in the Market Garden module. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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