GLynn41 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 It has beat me and beat me- on some battles-of course I keep coming back to do better and end up doing worse--of course I have played nothing but this since I got it -I hate this game but I do have some questions --why no bridges- why can I not shoot until it burns-and while I like using the M-1 -it seems that they are a little soft to me --my own opinion I know -- also why can the 105 not get at least a mobility kill on the t-62/72 tanks on side shots- -- - also at 50 meters how could even an era equipped t62 survive a shot form the M-1 maybe the 105 but the 120 sabot-- anyway -- I guess I will get around to a human - they will at least enjoy beating the snot out of -- the AI does beat me but does not care- I hate this game-- not-- I am enjoying the infantry fighting a great deal over all good job -- do not like the dust clouds and friendly fire is not n any way friendly- the game is worthy of the Battlefront name 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theFightingSeabee Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Just take it slow. Cover your movements with smoke whenever possible. Try to act like those are real guys, or even that you're right down there with them. Learn maneuver warfare, not just moving your guys around, but covering your movements with other units. As far as the damage modelling goes, there are so many factors involved that just about anything could happen. It feels pretty authentic to me. Maybe the m1 sabot went right through the tank without hitting any critical components, who knows. Either way, don't feel bad. Almost all of the scenarios are designed to be tough fights that take some heroic actions to win. I'm trained in a lot of military stuff including tactics, but war is tough and rarely by the books. I've lost many battles, even ones I've played before and knew what to expect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 -- the AI does beat me but does not care- Obviously you're not playing with headphones or you'd be hearing the AI snicker... Welcome to the forum! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackMoria Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Take it slow and steady. And analyse your terrain. I can't overstate that enough. If you aren't taking 15 minutes looking closely at the terrain before you deploy your forces, you are not taking enough time to do a proper terrain analysis. The terrain is everything. It will dictate what options you have, routes and covered approaches to take, your best fire positions, obstacles to avoid or overcome, your going (how easy or hard it is to get from point A to point , where your enemy is likely to deploy and how your enemy is likely to manuever. Proper understanding and use of the terrain means more than your force composition does.... its proper appreciation and use will shield your forces during movement, allow you positional advantage when you can seize it and will allow you to focus your firepower at the decision point. Fail to study and use it and expect casualties and possible defeat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 why no bridges- why can I not shoot until it burns... There are ten thousand things that could have been added to the game during design phase - and each thing would've pushed the initial release date another, week or month or year into the future, and the game's increased complexity from the additions would've probably limited playability to people with only the most robust PC setups. I'd much prefer a game I can play without bridges to a game with bridges I can't play. About your super T62 shaking off Abrams hits. Your little pixel Syrians must be the luckiest guys on the planet, my T62 are never half so lucky! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLynn41 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 thanks for the answers -- none of this has slowed me down in my playing and I am better--you all do realize that my fussing is not real-- I too would rather have the game as is than still be waiting--spolier----------------- The T62 was in follow the Euphrates- if you have played you know and I waited until it got to the intersection and blasted it with an M1-- it is possible something other was loaded than a sabot-- anyway he survived returned fire and took out one of the M1s?-- the other took him out and the neat thing was when the T62 expolded it was nose down in a crater and it blew in the building next to it-- sometimes I find my self just watching--cool game- as is CM1 although I rarely play them now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 There is a nice MGS vs T 55 T62 T72 scen @ www.CMMODS.com called Last Defense. It's a remake of the CMBO Classic Beta demo scen...It's a good one to learn What an MGS can do as well has it's vulnerability... They do remind me of a WW2 M-10 so I use them just as inappropriately...LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindry69 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 the AI does beat me but does not care Insightful and totally hilarious. All good, the AI has bent me over plenty of times. Really a testiment to a quality game by Battlefront. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLynn41 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 I will try the Cmmods battles --and I never thought of the MGS as an M-10- to barrow a word "insightful" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 M-10 = Lightly armored, decent gun, pretty good speed/maneuverability and designed for multiple missions it can only adequately fulfill. MGS = "Deja Vu all over again" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondbrooks Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Wasn't M-10 a Wolverine? Not lightly armored but moderate or bit below. And had open top turret. Hellcat was lightly armored. I still dont' like MGS, it useful just in few things, mostly blasting houses at distance. In CMSF i find .50cal and 40mm do just the same thing. Taking more time yeah, but then again no fear of friendly fire. And ammo last longer. + Visibility is so poor that it seems to be mostly loosing "spotting-race" against everything, like BMPs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLynn41 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 I saw an M10 at Fort Knox it is a pretty big afv -- over impression is it is bigger than the Sherman -- which may or may not be true-- i know it is not in armor and weight 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 There was a big debate on the CMAK board, IIRC, about how the M10 was essentially as armoured as the Sherman, since both were reasonably proof against the same weapons (50mm ATG) and both were vulnerable to the same weapons (75mm ATG) As for the MGS only being useful for blasting houses at a distance, that's as expected, because that is what it is intended for. It isn't a tank destroyer. If anything, 0.5" HMG and 40mm GMG are far too effective against buildings in game, especially thick-walled middle-eastern structures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondbrooks Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 As for the MGS only being useful for blasting houses at a distance, that's as expected, because that is what it is intended for. It isn't a tank destroyer. If anything, 0.5" HMG and 40mm GMG are far too effective against buildings in game, especially thick-walled middle-eastern structures. Yeah and that is why it seems to be pretty much useless. Basically blind turkey needing escort and red carpet to do things which other can do almost as well but with less care taking But it's 105mm has nice sound. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I find that 105 and M1 HEAT is nearly useless against infantry in the open in 1.11. Every round seems to fall about 25 yards short and causes wounds at most. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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