SlapHappy Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Wow I just got hit by ~1700 Syrian Light Infantry conscripts in a quick battle. They were coming out of treelines until I shot them up pretty good and took all the fight out of em. I was given some anti-tank/scout units and a very little infantry. Most of my troops were wrapped up in TOW infantry. I inflicted about 1000 casualties - dead, wounded, and missing. The remaining 500+ troops basically drew back into the woods and called it a day. The game ended after almost an entire hour of "overtime" play. I had ten killed out of 68 men. Most of those were from the 3-4 vehicles I had hit by RPG rocket fire. The conscripts were just no match for a small unit of hardcore Marines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpheart23 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 This was a QB? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Yup. Had battle size set to random. It must have come up 'Huge'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 I've noticed that if greeny troops have a treeline to spread out around they will tend to do that rather than advance over dead ground. They simply don't have the hutzpah to do that. They make little probes, take a couple of casualties, and seep back into cover. Very cool. Your biggest problem with these guys is having enough ammo to shoot them with. It's really kind of pathetic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theFightingSeabee Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Sounds like Iraq '91 and even '03. I heard stories of when we took out the republican guard south of baghdad. 50 dudes (not really conscripts, but not great troops) walking behinds each tank. We simply obliterated them. SlapHappy, that battle must have been epic. I think all those guys would be getting medals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 I didn't really have the right kind of firepower to fight these guys. My force was more or less AT assets. The only really effective heavy stuff I had was the 25mm autocannons on the LAVS. I had a good number of LAV-AT's, but they were only good for an occasional big bang. My TOW infantry pretty much sat around and did nothing. Under sustained or heavy fire, these guys fold up like a cheap tent. over 500 of them simply routed by the end of the battle. They would probably be more potent with protected approaches, but if they have to cross any sizable ground, forget it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondbrooks Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I've noticed that if greeny troops have a treeline to spread out around they will tend to do that rather than advance over dead ground. They simply don't have the hutzpah to do that. They make little probes, take a couple of casualties, and seep back into cover. Very cool. Your biggest problem with these guys is having enough ammo to shoot them with. It's really kind of pathetic Happened with Marines too, regular-veteran level. Some dismounted HMMs teams managed to participate into humanwave three times until bitting the dust. They always reached one trench which i controlled from side with .50cal MG and 40mm AGL. They either died there or pulled back (to try again). Now Javelin-teams doing that wasn't so funny. Took out many machineguns and hummers. When receiving fire they pulled back, but only to come back and try again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Tiger Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I just got hit by ~1700 Syrian Light Infantry conscripts in a quick battle Now THAT sounds like MY idea of a fun quick Battle. I should try a couple out again some time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafik63 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Its funny you should mention that actually about the iraqi conscripts. The EXACT same thing happened in the north when the Kurdish Peshmerga attacked the lines that the IA (Iraqi army) had dug in along. Most of them just didn't want to fight, and safe to say the idiots that did were dealt with. I mean considering the comparison thats pretty amazing baring in mind the Peshmerga are guerillas (bloody tough ones at that)! Regards Salam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It is the RELATIVE force quality that matters. Not the absolute ability of a given force. The Russian-Georgian spat is an example of this. With even vaguely modern weapons the less effective side just melts if the disparity is high enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 You should have bought a Sherman 105. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 You should have bought a Sherman 105. Damn yeah. Stay out of faust range though. I think that kind of basic direct HE chucker is badly needed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshal Blücher Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Damn yeah. Stay out of faust range though. I think that kind of basic direct HE chucker is badly needed. Isn't that called the Stryker MGS? Has a 105 as well, to boot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Err, isn't this what Artillery is for? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 The MGS has too few rounds and can be knocked out with course language. Close support like that afforded by the Sherman 105 is so much more flexible than arty. MGs & big accurate dollops of HE winkles infantry out of holes like, well, winkles. Or it should. I still think arty HE is over modelled in SF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Also, with the Sherman, there was no delay and no worrying you were going to rain death on your own troops. I guess the modern philosophy is to keep your distance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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