bloodstar Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 Hey everyone, Another short and sweet question. will SC2 feature minor countries creating units from time to time? for example, will canada be able to produce a corps unit once a year to assist in the war effort? It's not something I would call critical for playability, but I think it would be a nice little feature. Thanks! Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzgndr Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 Minor countries will have unit build limits, which in some cases may be more than what the default setup is. Finland, for example, may be able to build a HQ (can't think of a good name offhand ) and another corps or army. But it would be up to the parent major country that the minor is aligned to (Germany for Finland) as to when to buy a new unit and then pay for it. This should also provide the capability to rebuild destroyed minors. And with force pool limits for majors, you may want to max out with everything you can. With event scripting we should have a way for additional new units to appear. Like UK could have an ANZAC corps appear at Suez on or after such and such a date. Probably be able to do something similar with Canadians and others. Stay tuned as we wait and find out how scripting will work. [ April 29, 2004, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: pzgndr ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les the Sarge 9-1 Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 I will be veeeeeeeery happy to see being able to replace units from nations not of the big players. Reeeeeeeeally steams me when if I lose the Canadian army unit, it ain't coming back. That is just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Like a slowly building Canadian naval force of corvettes, it was the 3rd bigest navy after all. Oh and I think we should be able to build ALL units for minor countries, let the players choose which to build and make our own history. Even Denmark could build an HQ, if it had the time. But you see my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les the Sarge 9-1 Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 If they can let Germany have anything they can build, then the precendent is set. We should be able to build anyone anything if they can get the cash to do it. I don't mind starting a Minor with what they historically had, but it rubs me the wrong way knowing each of their units is a one shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komet-163 Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 It's a brilliant idea for the minor nations to be able to raise new armies and other things but will they must not have pollitcal leaders in charge just because it's easier to find out who the Norweigen king was (example here no offence meant) rather than who was the Norweigen chief of staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosevelt45 Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 I agree that it is a briljant idea to allow minor countries to build units and I really hope it's going to be included in SC2.It would also give more advantages to players who wait until the country joins them instead of invading it which is ,in some cases, way easier then waiting. p.s.:Mannheimer would be a good name for a Finland-HQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMonkey Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 I kinda of like MinorHammer for that Finnish HQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 Originally posted by Roosevelt45: p.s.:Mannheimer would be a good name for a Finland-HQ Hm what about MANNERHEIM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exel Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Mannerheim is the ONLY thinkable choice for a Finnish HQ. And make sure his rating is high enough as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exel Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 On a related note, will the minors still be as dependent on their major as in SC1? Can they reinforce and build new units with their domestic MPPs even when there is no supply route to the major? Or will the minors be directly attached to a major at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin P. Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Excellent point, especially for Sweden, Spain and Turkey which have several resource hexes (Sweden - 1 City, 1 Port, 2 Mines; Spain - 3 Cities and 1 Mine, Turkey - 3 Cities, 1 Port) [ May 04, 2004, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: Edwin P. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Originally posted by Edwin P.: Excellent point, especially for Sweden, Spain and Turkey. ...and, for Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl G. E. von Mannerheim Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Kuniworth: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Roosevelt45: p.s.:Mannheimer would be a good name for a Finland-HQ Hm what about MANNERHEIM? </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzgndr Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Mannerheim will be in, you can count on it CvM, great suggestion! (I figured that might draw you into the discussion. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exel Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Just remember that Finns didn't call him with the prefix 'von'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 A finnish HQ would be a 'must' with this dreaded supply system. How the heck would the Fins of fought the Winter War and then in '41 contributed without one? In fact I might suggest that a Link with Norway and Sweden be made, they're all connected. HQs for Turkey and Spain would be interesting. They could be very basic just allowing for resupply and possibly experience? Romania, is the only Axis Minor I can see as a huge factor. They were big contributors on the Eastern Front. Perhaps a combined Balkan HQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Gotta give access to everything the majors have access. If they get the $$$ for goodies, let them buy it. That is the whole point of this game, rewriting history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosevelt45 Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Sorry for my mistake with the name Mannerheim(Mannheimer ) earlier. I absolutely agree that minor countries should get more independence from their major.Especially Finland because(please corect me if I'm wrong here) I thought that Mannerheim refused to attack Leningrad together with Germany and that although they were at war with Russia they didn't actively help Germany. For spain of course Franco would be nice but I don't know any for Sweden or Turkey. p.s.: If the minor HQ's are included will Canada have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exel Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Roosevelt45: I absolutely agree that minor countries should get more independence from their major.Especially Finland because(please corect me if I'm wrong here) I thought that Mannerheim refused to attack Leningrad together with Germany and that although they were at war with Russia they didn't actively help Germany.Finland and Germany had a common enemy, but they never were in a formal alliance (if we disregard president Ryti's personal promise to Hitler not to make separate peace in 1944). Germans helped Finland in the effort, and they took the front responsibility in the northern Finland, where the German troops also got some Finnish units under their command. In the south (where most of the fighting took place), however, the Finnish army was completely autonomous. Mannerheim refused to attack Leningrad, and also rejected Hitler's constant requests of attacking the Murmansk railway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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