Splinty Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 Just gotta put the tracks on my tri-color Tiger I(late) and I'll send in the "before" version. The weathered version will follow a few days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flammenwerfer Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Kwazy- Regarding decals or markings, do you want them on the base photo or weathered photo, or neither? Also will all soviet afv's be the same dark green color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianc Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Diceman, Your models look fantastic, and I'd like to see more if you have them. One suggestion: use some sort of decal setting solution. I can see the decal section standing out quite clearly. Do you use a matte finish? That would help too. I'd love it if they used your models in CMBB, ianc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted February 8, 2002 Author Share Posted February 8, 2002 Looking forward to them guys! Flammenwerfer, your choice there. Put them on in both if you like, as its easy for me to work on them from there. Most Russian vehicles will be in their standard green as they really didnt use camo all that often. In fact, they didnt use it at all after 42. I have a couple of interesting books here just on the subject of Russian camo paint Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flammenwerfer Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Will there be different shades of bolshevik green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted February 8, 2002 Author Share Posted February 8, 2002 Probably Flammenwerfer, as the Russians often had different quality and colours of paints which they used. Hehe, it will be hard to get them to all match anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Originally posted by KwazyDog: Most Russian vehicles will be in their standard green as they really didnt use camo all that often. In fact, they didnt use it at all after 42. I have a couple of interesting books here just on the subject of Russian camo paint DanDan, According to "The Eastern Front" by Zaloga and Grandsen, most of 5th Guards Tank Corps was pattern-painted with brown swaths before the 1943 fighting around Kursk. Do your sources dispute that? Just curious, because I was already laying out my set of "Kursk" mods. Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted February 8, 2002 Author Share Posted February 8, 2002 Doh...typo, your right Gordon I have it listed here as mid-'43. A very interesting book on Russian camo is Soviet Camoflague from 1931 to 1935. I have a lot of faith in its accuracy as its a Russian publication, though it has an English translation available. What is very interesting is that it has the origional documents as to how the camoflague was supposed to be applied, which were supposed to be followed to the letter, and when they should be used. Winter camo was far more common that summer as this was left up to the troops, but camo in summer was up to the commander more than the tankers. If you remind me once we finish up CMBB Gordon Ill scan it up for you The bottom line is that it was rarely used, but was used a lot in certain areas (for identification as much as anything) in certain battles. The reason i decided not to use it in CMBB is that it was so rare, as mentioned, but also becuase most vehicles would be used outside of when the camo should be applied to them, if you know what I mean. That doesnt mean Im looking forward to seeing some mods though, they should look great! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Dan, Absolutely I agree. Soviet pattern painted camo was definitely rare, although as you say, locally significant use was made. Thanks for the offer, I'm always looking for more "data". Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Originally posted by ianc: Diceman, Your models look fantastic, and I'd like to see more if you have them. One suggestion: use some sort of decal setting solution. I can see the decal section standing out quite clearly. Do you use a matte finish? That would help too. I'd love it if they used your models in CMBB, iancWith the exception of the Tiger II (i'm still waiting for Dullcoat to come in the mail) the decals were applied with Micro Set, and dull coated. The problem is the uneven surface caused by zimmeriting the tanks. I couldn't get the decals to lay flat, so I thought I'd see if the dullcoat would do it's work in spite of that. Under ordinary light the decals don't look bad, but under bright light, and camera flash, the reflection of the underlying surface shows off the decals. I really need to get my hands on some stencils and redo them, but I'm afraid they're impossible to remove now. Live and learn. BTW the Ferdinand is finished. I'm giving up on the idea of borrowing a digital cammera and will be shooting them using slide film today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted February 9, 2002 Author Share Posted February 9, 2002 Heya Guys, Gordon, dont let me forget once we get CMBB done and Ill get you the info Diceman, looking forward to seeing them very much! Thanks for all of the trouble Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zitadelle Posted February 9, 2002 Share Posted February 9, 2002 Note to self for future model building projects: gluing hundreds of really small individual track links is really, really boring!! Next time, stick with bigger tanks- naturally they will have bigger tracks.... The T-60 is coming along on schedule, and should be ready by February 28th (if not earlier). The body and turret are complete. Now, all I have to do is connect all those tiny little track links, and mount the running gear and tracks. The T-70 will be in the hobby shop early next week. KwazyDog- given a choice which would you rather have as a model: the T-70 or the T-70M? I think the hobby shop will be getting in both, and I really don't know the structural difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted February 9, 2002 Share Posted February 9, 2002 Originally posted by Zitadelle: Note to self for future model building projects: gluing hundreds of really small individual track links is really, really boring!! I have a love/hate relationship with individual track links. I hate the enormous amount of time they consume, and the tediousness of cleaning and assembling them, but I love the way they look compared to vinyl tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted February 9, 2002 Share Posted February 9, 2002 I hear ya'! Although the individual links look great when properly assembled,they are a pain in the posterier to put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zitadelle Posted February 9, 2002 Share Posted February 9, 2002 Yes, I definitely agree- individual track links are the way to go! The result is far better and more detailed than the vinyl tracks, and paint sticks to the plastic better than the vinyl (I always had trouble with cracking paint on vinyl). So, I will always use the individual links- or a combination of individual links and strips. However, let me tell you about T-60/T-70 links (yes they are in the same). These things are tiny- I have never worked with links this small! Ughh! they are a pain, but I will glue all 168 for each vehicle together (over 330!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted February 10, 2002 Author Share Posted February 10, 2002 Zitadelle, Id actually be interested to see the T-70M, as I had only a very poor blueprint of that one, but please do which ever one you prefer as I can make both models from the one texture Thanks again for all of the input guys! Dan [ February 09, 2002, 05:40 PM: Message edited by: KwazyDog ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted February 13, 2002 Share Posted February 13, 2002 Hey, I had to go to page four to find this thing! Well I started to go about the task of photopraphing these models, not without a bit of complaining, when my wife suddenly caves in to the idea of getting a digital camera. Won it on e-bay Sunday, got it today. Of course, I imediately put it to work. The following are in the mail: Panther A late, Tamiya PZIIIL, Tamiya JSII Early, DML Tiger 1 Late, Tamiya Tiger 2 Late, Tamiya Ferdinand, DML. If all is not well, please let me know. Thanks Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ol one eye. Posted February 13, 2002 Share Posted February 13, 2002 WOW! This whole thing has piqued my curiosity about moddeling, I used to build airplanes when I was a kid, but then puberty hit. Is there a list of vehicles that still need doing, I might just pick up one for kicks, and to help out BTS of course! Thank you all, CMBB is going to be puuuuurdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zitadelle Posted February 13, 2002 Share Posted February 13, 2002 KwazyDog- ask and ye' shall receive.... Last night I purchased the T-70M from the local hobby shop. I also purchased a turned aluminium 45mm gun barrel. (Thanks to Grandad's Hobbies in Springfield, Virginia for getting it in quickly). I will keep KD apprised of the progress with the T-70M (I am thinking that it might not be done by February 28th, but it will be done sometime in March). The T-60 will be done by Feb. 28th, however. So, I now have even more damnable little tiny ZIS-5 track links to glue together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted February 13, 2002 Share Posted February 13, 2002 O.K. here they are. I created another quick web page to show these inputs. They should show up without monkeying around with links now. That's it for now. I'll be finishing up my PzKpfw 38T, T34/76, and T34/85 in the next couple of weeks. How's everyone else coming along? I'd love to see the pics. [ February 14, 2002, 05:00 PM: Message edited by: Diceman ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted February 14, 2002 Author Share Posted February 14, 2002 Heya Guys Diceman, all recieved fine as I mentioned in the email. They look great, too! The shots above dont seem to be working at the moment though? One eye, check out this link below... http://www.battlefront.com/Model_Contest/Model_contest.html Zitadelle, Im looking forward to seeing it Thanks for all of the great work, it will help out very much! Thanks guys! Dan [ February 13, 2002, 05:22 PM: Message edited by: KwazyDog ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 Originally posted by KwazyDog: Heya Guys Diceman, all recieved fine as I mentioned in the email. They look great, too! The shots above dont seem to be working at the moment though?... Thanks guys! DanThat should of fixed the problem. Cheers Eric [ February 14, 2002, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Diceman ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 Diceman those are some excellent heavies! Good show, chap! I have now built my: Sdkfz 10/5 Sdkfz 222 Late Hummel Pz 35-S BT-7 And am now entering the painting stage. Hope to have them to you on the 24th Dan. That is when my mother-in-law gets here with her fancy digi-cam. Hey Dan, anything you want to bring up as a "Last call" or "most wanted" list? Just curious how things are stacking up... [ February 13, 2002, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: Panzer Leader ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 Originally posted by Panzer Leader: Diceman those are some excellent heavies! Good show, chap! Thanks, I appreciate the positive feedback. I have much more determination and perseverance than talent, but I think I can feel good about these models, and I must confess I enjoy sharing my work. If you look at the photos from an oldest to latest point of view, I think you can see a definite defining, and improvement of style, and technique. In order of creation: PZIII, JSII, Tiger 1, Panther, Tiger II, Ferdinand. Cheers Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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