beyerun64 Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Had a bogged King Tiger and a lone soldier threw some kinda black thing and it clunked on my Tiger. Said "Hit" and then the tank was knocked out. What is that supposed to represent? He hurled it at the tank. Wasn't placed on the tank. No fire, so not a Molatov. Is that an abstraction? Looked kind of like something from an Atari 2600 game to be honest. Big black block tossed at my tank. -Byron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Could it be a demo charge? A backpack filled with C4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juju Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Grenade bundle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanachai Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Was it thrown by a Finn? It could have been a toaster oven. Finns can knock out a tank with anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 I think what you saw was the use of minedogs by conscript russians. During the war many russian soldiers lacked the extensive training required to train minedogs using Pavlovian reflexes and instead used rather rude techniques. Often they simply strapped a AT mine onto a (preferable) small dog and threw the dog/mine combo at german AFVs. During the course of the war, the soviet army used smaller and smaller dogs, enabling them to be thrown at more distant targets. The pinnacle of this developement was reached in October '44 when a 25kg AT mine was strapped on a lend-lease Chihuahua. Results were less than satisfactory and the next series abandoned the use of dogs altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 If you click on the squad that threw the AT pixel, and go back in time to a time before the squad threw the pixel-o-death (i.e., use the rewind command), you can look at the squad's store of grenades, grenade bundles, wurfmine, etc; one should disappear from the list when the unit throws one; whatever disappears is what he threw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWB Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Black block, russian, likely a RPG-43. Them things are deadly. WWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Originally posted by Seanachai: Was it thrown by a Finn? It could have been a toaster oven.No. I think you're confusing toaster ovens with boxes of toothpicks. Mace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyerun64 Posted September 28, 2002 Author Share Posted September 28, 2002 Thank you for all the replies. Great toss if it was a satchel charge. Was the RPG fired so it'd hit in an arc? Or fired directly at the tank. Seemed to land on the "roof" of the turret. Was buttoned up at the time. Make a clunk sound when it hit. No explosion though. Had to laugh, no it wasn't a Finnish solider. Random battle so I'll probably be unable to replicate it. -Byron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_in_texas Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 Possibly an AT magnetic mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panzer Boxb Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 Originally posted by Mace: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Seanachai: Was it thrown by a Finn? It could have been a toaster oven.No. I think you're confusing toaster ovens with boxes of toothpicks. Mace</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 Originally posted by beyerun64: Was the RPG fired so it'd hit in an arc? Or fired directly at the tank. Seemed to land on the "roof" of the turret.RPG in this case doesn't mean Rocket Propelled Germansheperd but "Reactiveny Puhpupuh Grenadski" (or something like that) meaning shape charge warhead. It's a big grenade that is weighted to hit armor at a certain angle when thrown. So it was indeed thrown on top of the tank and penetrates the thin top armor downwards. [EDIT]RPG=Rucharnaya Protivotankovaya Granata, in english: antitank handgrenade. [ September 27, 2002, 07:12 PM: Message edited by: Foxbat ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 I found a picture of (what i think is) the grenade (the large black one) And a link to a page that sells them http://www.cam.org/~perrier/ordnance.htm in case you wish to verify the penetration values your self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnersman Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 Are you sure it wasnt a black box? Those things are pretty tough from what I understand, maybe they can take out tanks if you throw them hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 A Rubics cube maybe? I hate them things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Tankersley Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 Originally posted by Seanachai: Was it thrown by a Finn? It could have been a toaster oven. Finns can knock out a tank with anything...I did a quick battle just now with the computer picking everything - I had to assault across open, flat ground with conscript Finns. Let's just say I'm not buying into the uberFinn mythos at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killmore Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 Granade RPG-43 was able to penetrate 120mm. So yes it can take out King Tiger - maybe not from the front... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hofbauer Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 black block? large black monolith? ...was it full of stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpius1001 Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 I'm just surprised the bastard had the balls to do it in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_Tiger Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 Originally posted by ParaBellum: I think what you saw was the use of minedogs by conscript russians. During the war many russian soldiers lacked the extensive training required to train minedogs using Pavlovian reflexes and instead used rather rude techniques. Often they simply strapped a AT mine onto a (preferable) small dog and threw the dog/mine combo at german AFVs. During the course of the war, the soviet army used smaller and smaller dogs, enabling them to be thrown at more distant targets. The pinnacle of this developement was reached in October '44 when a 25kg AT mine was strapped on a lend-lease Chihuahua. Results were less than satisfactory and the next series abandoned the use of dogs altogether.Yes, the russians learned really fast, in pre-wartime, they tryed it with Mine-Cats, but those stinky pets, did allways landed on her feets, insteed of her backs with the mines on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanachai Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 Originally posted by L.Tankersley: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Seanachai: Was it thrown by a Finn? It could have been a toaster oven. Finns can knock out a tank with anything...I did a quick battle just now with the computer picking everything - I had to assault across open, flat ground with conscript Finns. Let's just say I'm not buying into the uberFinn mythos at the moment...</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIEJEFF Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 Originally posted by Seanachai: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by L.Tankersley: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Seanachai: Was it thrown by a Finn? It could have been a toaster oven. Finns can knock out a tank with anything...I did a quick battle just now with the computer picking everything - I had to assault across open, flat ground with conscript Finns. Let's just say I'm not buying into the uberFinn mythos at the moment...</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanachai Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 Originally posted by AussieJeff: Have you tried getting them to face each other back to back? That should help. AJNot even another Finn would be foolish enought to turn his back to a Finn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 There is a updated site of the RPG-43. It looks perfect in the game. The cloth stabilizer even moves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spook Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Originally posted by mike_in_texas: Possibly an AT magnetic mine?Dang. It must be in the CM code that a late-war German tank isn't using "zimmerit" anti-magnetic paste --- unless a CM gamer creates and applies a graphics mod showing otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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