Hans Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Abandonment? small use by a band of gamey luddites? A refuge for those who hate the new engine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted April 22, 2004 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 Abandonment? small use by a band of gamey luddites? A refuge for those who hate the new engine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 All of the above. I was surprised that CMBO still has so many fans. I was surprised that I didn't hate CMBB more when I went back to play it recently - which reminds me I still owe Chuck a turn in addition to the ROW turns I owe... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 All of the above. I was surprised that CMBO still has so many fans. I was surprised that I didn't hate CMBB more when I went back to play it recently - which reminds me I still owe Chuck a turn in addition to the ROW turns I owe... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertruppe Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I think Michael is right. There are those who forget about a game when a new one comes out and those,who no matter what the new game has to offer,will never remove the older ones from their hard drive. I think the CM series will still have a very long life. I can understand why whenever I get ASL out and play with my brother at our summer BBQ's. [ April 22, 2004, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: Panzertruppe ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertruppe Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I think Michael is right. There are those who forget about a game when a new one comes out and those,who no matter what the new game has to offer,will never remove the older ones from their hard drive. I think the CM series will still have a very long life. I can understand why whenever I get ASL out and play with my brother at our summer BBQ's. [ April 22, 2004, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: Panzertruppe ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simovitch Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 2 years off for CMX2 equals alot of campaigning time with CM. And thankfully the work of modders and individuals like Mike T (CMMOS for CMAK) and Battlefront (future patches) are not allowing the planned obsolesence of the CM series to cause premature stagnation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simovitch Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 2 years off for CMX2 equals alot of campaigning time with CM. And thankfully the work of modders and individuals like Mike T (CMMOS for CMAK) and Battlefront (future patches) are not allowing the planned obsolesence of the CM series to cause premature stagnation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucho Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I can understand that CMBB is adequate today, but CMBO - ugly (I was shocked by its ugliness compared to CMBB or CMAK last time I played it). It looks so - primitive. Sorry if someone´s taste is opposed. Yes, I am not an English native speaking person. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucho Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I can understand that CMBB is adequate today, but CMBO - ugly (I was shocked by its ugliness compared to CMBB or CMAK last time I played it). It looks so - primitive. Sorry if someone´s taste is opposed. Yes, I am not an English native speaking person. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 look at how much effort is put into spww2 a dos based game. like classic cars, classic games will continue to be played for a long time. some people are buying old computers just to play old dos games. its the gameplay, not the eye candy, that make it last. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 look at how much effort is put into spww2 a dos based game. like classic cars, classic games will continue to be played for a long time. some people are buying old computers just to play old dos games. its the gameplay, not the eye candy, that make it last. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agua Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Originally posted by Lucho: I can understand that CMBB is adequate today, but CMBO - ugly (I was shocked by its ugliness compared to CMBB or CMAK last time I played it). It looks so - primitive. Sorry if someone´s taste is opposed. Yes, I am not an English native speaking person. Hehhh... ugly transcends language. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agua Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Originally posted by Lucho: I can understand that CMBB is adequate today, but CMBO - ugly (I was shocked by its ugliness compared to CMBB or CMAK last time I played it). It looks so - primitive. Sorry if someone´s taste is opposed. Yes, I am not an English native speaking person. Hehhh... ugly transcends language. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Originally posted by junk2drive: look at how much effort is put into spww2 a dos based game. like classic cars, classic games will continue to be played for a long time. some people are buying old computers just to play old dos games. its the gameplay, not the eye candy, that make it last. Indeed, and for those of us who don't go out and buy a new computer every year its a good solution. That said after a few years of CMX2 I think these older games will start to fade away much like Big Time Software's older games like Over the Reich etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Originally posted by junk2drive: look at how much effort is put into spww2 a dos based game. like classic cars, classic games will continue to be played for a long time. some people are buying old computers just to play old dos games. its the gameplay, not the eye candy, that make it last. Indeed, and for those of us who don't go out and buy a new computer every year its a good solution. That said after a few years of CMX2 I think these older games will start to fade away much like Big Time Software's older games like Over the Reich etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsmith Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 When CMX2 arrives I will probably stop playing both CMBB & CMAK because I will have reason to use OSX exclusively 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsmith Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 When CMX2 arrives I will probably stop playing both CMBB & CMAK because I will have reason to use OSX exclusively 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by Panzerman: That said after a few years of CMX2 I think these older games will start to fade away much like Big Time Software's older games like Over the Reich etc. That may not be a good comparison. Although I bought and played both games, I always felt Over the Reich and Actung Spitfire! were fundamentally flawed in ways that the CM series is not. A 2D representation of plane to plane combat in a very three dimensional medium just never really worked for me. It's regrettable that BTS didn't decide to do operational level WW II air combat as it seems to me that there is a vacant niche and a crying need for that. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by Panzerman: That said after a few years of CMX2 I think these older games will start to fade away much like Big Time Software's older games like Over the Reich etc. That may not be a good comparison. Although I bought and played both games, I always felt Over the Reich and Actung Spitfire! were fundamentally flawed in ways that the CM series is not. A 2D representation of plane to plane combat in a very three dimensional medium just never really worked for me. It's regrettable that BTS didn't decide to do operational level WW II air combat as it seems to me that there is a vacant niche and a crying need for that. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 True. I know that unless I get a new computer in the next few years, which I most likely will not, CMX2 will be unplayable for me anyway; so I'll still be using the current games most likely. I agree about the air combat, I liked the earlier games, and its sad that they did not go forward with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 True. I know that unless I get a new computer in the next few years, which I most likely will not, CMX2 will be unplayable for me anyway; so I'll still be using the current games most likely. I agree about the air combat, I liked the earlier games, and its sad that they did not go forward with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 Interesting note, although I didn't plan it that way as CMBB and CMAK have come out I have abandoned the earlier games completely. Sad about air games, one of the finest games I ever played was Flight Commander II - even designed a monster scenario for it. I always thought a modern/WWI and WWII air operational type game was an excellent idea. But then I've always wanted a joint operational/ tactical coastal warfare game too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 Interesting note, although I didn't plan it that way as CMBB and CMAK have come out I have abandoned the earlier games completely. Sad about air games, one of the finest games I ever played was Flight Commander II - even designed a monster scenario for it. I always thought a modern/WWI and WWII air operational type game was an excellent idea. But then I've always wanted a joint operational/ tactical coastal warfare game too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerousdave Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 When the World at War Stalingrad game came out, I was sure it was the best wargame ever. And it probably was at the time. Does anyone play that anymore? Evolution is a good thing. CMAK is the best wargame ever right now, as far as I'm concerned. However, there is still plenty of room for evolution. If not Battlefront, then someone else will do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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