Hoopenfaust2 Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 Would you have bought the game if Canada wasn't involved and do you prefer making or using Canadian scenarios. I know there's lots of you, I saw you guys in the other thread. If you are not Canadian have you read about the exploits of Canada in WWII ...just asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Capt Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 I thought the addition was quite nice. I would have still bought the game with or without us in it but it is good to see. Often we get lumped in with the Brits and forgotten. They even got the flag right. To be honest, I didn't even know our troops were modeled when I ordered. I do admit to liking using them from time to time. But they do have shortcomings much like the Brits. An intersting aside, I have played the Worthington Force Scenario which is based on a British Columbia Regt action in Normandy. Vicious fight but what is really interesting is that my Grandfather actually fought in the action. He was a Sherman crewman and was in one of the eight tanks which actually got out alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 I would have got it anyway its a great war game. I do not use Canadians as I don't like to see my own country men die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 I probably would have bought it if Canadians weren't included -- come to think of it, I'm not sure I even knew they WERE included until it showed up. I don't really play them more than I play any other nationality. I doubt many foreigners do much reading on the Canadian contribution -- most books on the subject are published here and I expect very few are exported. That's a reality, not a criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally's World Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 It currently is great that Canadians were included in CM and although I really have no preference to play a certain country, it certainly is an added bonus morale (my morale, of course) effect to play as the Canadians. A great scenario for Canadians is the "Hit the Coast" scenario which depicts the fighting along the coast of France in which the Canadians were heavily involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnifeForkSpoon Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 Hoopenfaust wrote: Would you have bought the game if Canada wasn't involved and do you prefer making or using Canadian scenarios. I know there's lots of you, I saw you guys in the other thread. If you are not Canadian have you read about the exploits of Canada in WWII ...just asking I bought the game as soon as I read the write-up on "Inside Mac Games." I do remember the article talking about Cancuks being included, but that had little bearing on my decision to buy. I visited the Battlefront site and ordered straight away. I do LOVE to play as the Canadians. They do have their limitations, but they also have some good points. (All them 2 inch mortars!) Also, I dislike the fact that they just use the American voice files. Could have thrown a few French Canadian-isms and "ah-BOOOts" in there, eh? I cannot bring myself to play against the Canadians. But I do play all the other nationalities. There are some good (and BAD) Canadian scenarios out there. One thing I do find a bit odd are Canadian scenarios with a LOT of CRACK or ELITE units in them. I like to think most of the Cancuk units were regular (well trained) with the occasional/rare VET/CRACK units. On a side note, I was wondering if any of you Canucks have heard about the Canadian Airborne Unit (outfitted as, and led by British) that jumped on D-Day with the British Airborne landings? I'd love to research a scenario on those landings. (Guess I'd have to use British Paras, though.) (I read about said airborne unit through a Canadian Airborne Website.) (Are these stories true?) Anyway, I love the game. And would have loved it even without the Canucks included. KFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopenfaust2 Posted June 27, 2001 Author Share Posted June 27, 2001 Panzerman, I just visited your scenario zone and saw that you need info on the last battles around Caen. I've got a vast amount of Canadian WWII books so if you've got any questions. I'm doing several canadian maps but I really don't enjoy setting the "troops" up for a balanced play. If anyone wants maps made (I'm a detail person) I'd be happy to do them, but you'll hafta add the fightin' armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YECoyote Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 I have just gone from playing Germs exclusively to Canadian Scenarios and Campaigns. If you have some, especially MODS, please tell me where to go to get them. I got most of my Canadian stuff from Michael Dorosh (hope I got his name right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barticus Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KnifeForkSpoon: Could have thrown a few French Canadian-isms and "ah-BOOOts" in there, eh? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryddle Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 If you're going to include some Fr. Cdn voices, don't forget to include "tabernac!" -R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hoopenfaust 101: Panzerman, I just visited your scenario zone and saw that you need info on the last battles around Caen. I've got a vast amount of Canadian WWII books so if you've got any questions. I'm doing several canadian maps but I really don't enjoy setting the "troops" up for a balanced play. If anyone wants maps made (I'm a detail person) I'd be happy to do them, but you'll hafta add the fightin' armies.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ok. Sounds good. Ill send you a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YECoyote: I have just gone from playing Germs exclusively to Canadian Scenarios and Campaigns. If you have some, especially MODS, please tell me where to go to get them. I got most of my Canadian stuff from Michael Dorosh (hope I got his name right)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You're the first one that has! I am always on the lookout to host historical battles/operations by different designers featuring Canadian forces; feel free to email me. I too would have purchased the game even if Canadians weren't included; luckily on the tactical level they weren't all that different from the British, and that is reflected in the game. I do love that they use American voice files rather than British - a very nice touch, as is the Red Ensign. I am continually grateful to BTS for getting these little details right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 I tried playing as Canadians but having people running around armed with nothing but hockey sticks and Lovat Blue wasn't my idea of fun (actually it is my exact idea of fun). Don't mind me, I'm just mad I live in Southern California and have to pay money in order to skate on ice! p.s. Go Kings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Banshee: ...nothing but hockey sticks and Lovat Blue...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Is that like Labatt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smack Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 Hey guys! I would have bought the game regardless but its nice of BTS to include us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopenfaust2 Posted June 28, 2001 Author Share Posted June 28, 2001 Maybe the province of Toronto will be included in CM2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppcli Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 Well, there certainly seems to be enough of us Canucks out there...It is a very nice touch to include us in the game but the designers seemed to be trying to be as realistic as possible and it would have been a travesty not to have included a representation of the Canadian forces, considering that Canada fielded a sizeable fighting force (as a side note, did anyone realize that we had the 3rd largest navy in the world by the end of WWII?). I play as the Canadian Forces (and the British) as much as possible b/c I enjoy the challenges and it's not the same old Axis vs the Americans you see in a lot of other computer war games (sometimes you'd wonder whether people thought it was only the US who fought in WWII against the Axis). I remember playing West Front and searching all over for the Battle Pack Add-on just so I could campaighn as the Canadian Forces. I probably would have bought the game even without Canada's inclusion just b/c Combat Mission is such a new way of playing wargames. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 Canada is cool :cool: ! There are some very good CM scenarios with Canadian forces. I recommand "Worthington Force" (on Combat Missions site)which is pretty well designed(The Map is a jewel of realism)."Bloody Buron" I and II are very interesting too. I also made a scenario "Ein Würfelspiel"(M. Dorosh site)about the fierce night combat between the 12thPzDiv and the Regina Rifle. I only use the "crack" or "elite" status for a particular squad or team to simulate their heroic behaviour (IE: Piat-man Joe Lapointe who was the first guy who destroyed a Panther on the West Front in a close-combat fight). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Boot Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 I wouldn't have bought it had I know Canadians were in it. Bloody hamster loving people. Tue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopenfaust2 Posted June 28, 2001 Author Share Posted June 28, 2001 Xavier I've played all of your scenarios. They are some the best ones I've played that have to do with the Canadians. You've got a good touch. You need to release them in a large pack in english so our international community can understand the briefings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailz Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 I play the Canadians almost to the exclusion of all other nationalities. (which works out well, because most of my opponents have preferred being the Germans.) I will confess that I enjoy beating up on the SS most of all. While I'm in the thread... anyone point the direction to some good Falaise Gap scenarios? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaffertape Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 I definitely would have bought the game if it hadn't included the Canadians, but I was glad to see us included nonetheless. My memory is terrible, but I have read several books about the Canadian experience in WWII. Just finished one called "Steel My Soldiers Hearts", which gave a pretty grim portrayal of a Canadian tanker. "Ortona" was a good read as well, although that was Italy, not Normandy. I'm trying to get more stuff about the Sheldt Estuary battles, which sounded really brutal. GAFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gaffertape: I'm trying to get more stuff about the Sheldt Estuary battles, which sounded really brutal. GAFF<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Find Tug of War by Whitaker if you haven't already. And to comment on the RCN comment - we also had the 4th largest air force in the world in 1945 (if for however brief a time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hoopenfaust 101: Xavier I've played all of your scenarios. They are some the best ones I've played that have to do with the Canadians. You've got a good touch. You need to release them in a large pack in english so our international community can understand the briefings.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hoopenfaust, two scenarios involving canadian forces are already translated : "Bloody Buron" (from Joël Montagu) and "Ein Würfelspiel" (from Xavier). These two scenarios are available at Appui-Feu (on the Scenarios pages). If anybody wants to make a translation of "Charnwood" from French to English, I'll be glad to put it online at Appui-Feu, after what I'll release a pack with the three scenarios . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopenfaust2 Posted June 28, 2001 Author Share Posted June 28, 2001 Didn't know that. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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