Russkly Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 SPOILERS! I think this has been reported previously, but I'm not aware of any fix: The spotting of the M3 halftrack gunners in this mission doesn't seem to be in keeping with the mission visibility parameters - it is a snow blizzard at night, and visibility for my troops (Axis) is about 100-200m. The M3 gunners however appear to have no such restrictions and decimate anything on the map. They can seemingly see my troops without the latter being able to spot the halftracks. As such, the only option seems to be to do nothing and just fast forward through each turn for an hour and 20 minutes (yawn). Anyone else notice this or have found a way of completing the mission? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benpark Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I'll submit that. It would be most helpful for Charles (BFC/Code Machine/Magician) to have a save from your own game - would you mind attaching a save where you see the oddity here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russkly Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, benpark said: I'll submit that. It would be most helpful for Charles (BFC/Code Machine/Magician) to have a save from your own game - would you mind attaching a save where you see the oddity here? Thx, Ben, wilco. How do I get the save file <2Mb?! It's an 11.7Mb file, and compressing it only gets it to 9.2Mb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I noticed the same issue with M5 halftracks in the Soviet "To Berlin" campaign, of course there in the players favour, see attached pcitures from the 4th battle of the campaign. First, an M4A2 spotting, maximum range in the early dark of January 1945 is about 320 meters: Second, an M5 spotting out to close of 1 km, only constrained in this instance by terrain: I can provide the save game for this situation via dropbox link, if required. But I think proobably it can also be reproduced with a simple test scenario. Looks like the M3s / M5s have aquired advanced IR optics, somehow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benpark Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Thanks - this save should be good, along with some that I'll run. I'll pass this along, as it is weird indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, benpark said: Thanks - this save should be good, along with some that I'll run. I'll pass this along, as it is weird indeed. OK, save available here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4dxw2cpb3pv4b8l/CMFR To Berlin 045.bts?dl=0 Let me know if this link doesn't work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Known bug. It affects all M2 .50 caliber machine guns in Red Thunder. It's supposed to be fixed in the next patch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 16 hours ago, Vanir Ausf B said: Known bug. It affects all M2 .50 caliber machine guns in Red Thunder. It's supposed to be fixed in the next patch. Thanks, good to know. No rush with the patch, those M2-equipped halftracks are quite useful in my current campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russkly Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Mad Mike said: Thanks, good to know. No rush with the patch, those M2-equipped halftracks are quite useful in my current campaign. Opposite for me! Mission is unplayable with the all-seeing, all-destroying M3 HTs... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 @RussklyHow far into the campaign is "Snow Blind"? I'm still on Mission 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russkly Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Warts 'n' all said: @RussklyHow far into the campaign is "Snow Blind"? I'm still on Mission 2. Not sure. Perhaps 3rd or 4th. Which is the 2nd mission again? Either way, I would advise not to try Snow Blind until there's a patch for the .50 cal - mightily frustrating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 The 2nd mission is called "Mountain Jam". I think I'll shall take your advice, and try another campaign for the time being. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Herm Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) I played snowblind, everything was working fine. Sorry for the double post... Edited February 10, 2022 by M.H. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Herm Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Warts 'n' all said: The 2nd mission is called "Mountain Jam". I think I'll shall take your advice, and try another campaign for the time being. Â I played snowblind, everything was working fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russkly Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, M.H. said: Â I played snowblind, everything was working fine. Interesting. When did you play it, M.H.? Perhaps something changed with v2.11? As it stands I have no freedom of movement at all on the map - the HTs spot and destroy anything that moves into their 'normal' line of sight, despite the conditions (snow blizzard, night), and I can't spot them unless I'm right on top of them. By which point I'm dead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2k Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 All .50 Cal weapons in CMCW and CMRT had thermal vision enabled in error. CMCW was patched/fixed earlier. CMRT is not... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Herm Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 15 hours ago, Russkly said: Interesting. When did you play it, M.H.? Perhaps something changed with v2.11? As it stands I have no freedom of movement at all on the map - the HTs spot and destroy anything that moves into their 'normal' line of sight, despite the conditions (snow blizzard, night), and I can't spot them unless I'm right on top of them. By which point I'm dead. version 2.11 thats for sure, mid last december. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russkly Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, M.H. said: version 2.11 thats for sure, mid last december. Well, I'd be fascinated to hear how you got through the mission, if you can remember. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 The plot thickens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benpark Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Not sure when BFC will get to a patch for RT, but I can adapt the campaign file to use something else for that scenario if it would help (as spotting is crucial for that one, in particular). Elvis also OK'd me putting up a fix for the Berlin campaign where some of the AI assignments got screwed up so the Soviet attack was vastly lighter than it should have been. Might be a few days, but that shouldn't be an issue as far as I'm concerned. This of course was not seen in testing, so either it popped up after we were done, or some odd confluence of things are working in tandem to cause havoc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2k Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, benpark said: This of course was not seen in testing, so either it popped up after we were done, or some odd confluence of things are working in tandem to cause havoc. The M2 .50 Cal Thermal vision bug was not in CMRT initial release v2.10. It is there since v2.11, from around may 2021. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benpark Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 That makes sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2k Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Yeah, I meant CMRT Fire & Rubble initial release, of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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