Sequoia Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 And will there be a Berlin Master map? Hey, you could use a revised one from Fire and Rubble! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combatintman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) Knocking Berlin over would have been an NVA task - they're not included in the title so not sure if we'll see this. Plus the fact, Berlin was somewhat different in the late 70s/early 80s than it was in 1945. Edited February 17, 2021 by Combatintman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Sure, the master map thing was a joke, but US Berlin Infantry battalion is listed in the TO&E list, so someone is thinking Berlin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Yes the Berlin Brigade organization is included in this game. I will let @The_Capt give you the broad strokes as he prepped the US TO&E, Bil 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Capt Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Bil Hardenberger said: Yes the Berlin Brigade organization is included in this game. I will let @The_Capt give you the broad strokes as he prepped the US TO&E, Bil Broad strokes is that the Bns in this Bde were oddballs. Based on a Light Bn structure but it had limited armour. The whole thing was limited by peace treaties, more of a “presence” outfit in my opinion. Would be very interesting to see it in a streetlight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Combatintman said: Plus the fact, Berlin was somewhat different in the late 70s/early 80s than it was in 1945. Presumably though, if it can be converted, @benpark's map would be a much, much better place to start than this: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 To anyone who may know. There is (or was) a board war game called Berlin '85. The order of battle included in that game had many problems. In doing some research on a correct OOB I found a vague note that suggested the Western powers augmented their force with German MP units. Does anyone know anything about that? I know the Bundeswehr couldn't have forces in Berlin, but the West Berlin Police had some paramilitary forces which were represented in the game, but that's not what I'm talking about. What I'm asking is German personnel under allied payroll and control (beyond just civilian maintenance people ). Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinetree Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Here's a document for a more realistic OOB for Berlin'85 based on my research that I made a couple of years ago, which will give you a broad strokes look at the Berlin forces. stoss-revised.pdf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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