MikeyD Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 My first thought was smoke too then I remembered - oh yeh, Red Thunder. Ruskie tanks are a bit deficient in that regard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macisle Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Oh, yeah. I just read Shermans... Soviets have to use a lot of dust "smoke"! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 it is even worse when you know it is a panther, in a great spot, you have only Shermans and you can't flank the SOB. Knowing your going to die makes for a pretty aggravating situation. Already lost 3 tanks to him and unless i find a nuclear warhead, I am stopped... If you truly can't flank him, doesn't that mean he's keyholed and you can, with due dilligence, just avoid his field of fire? Because trying to kill a Panther frontally with short 75s is simply an exercise in making the Jerries repaint their glacis and requisitioning new tanks and crews from the repple depple. Doesn't matter how good you are at "Tactics". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 If you truly can't flank him, doesn't that mean he's keyholed and you can, with due dilligence, just avoid his field of fire? Because trying to kill a Panther frontally with short 75s is simply an exercise in making the Jerries repaint their glacis and requisitioning new tanks and crews from the repple depple. Doesn't matter how good you are at "Tactics". Not always true. Here is my examble (which I actually did). I have a King Tiger. OK, I would really like to take on them distant T34/ 85's in a match. I better check and make sure that they are harmless to my front armor and at what ranges. Run the test with about 50 rounds hitting my front from ranges 600 down to 200 yards. OK- great, even if they close in on me, It looks good. Now back to the match, pull my tank out into battle, range about 1000 yards. One T34 up in smoke, then a second. then the gun is damaged. Crap It never fails, I lose more guns on my heavy armor, just poor luck. Where as, when I was playing the other side of this battle, I had 6 hits on a enemy Tiger with my 85'son its barrell and it was still firing away. Luck, you can always hope for that. I on the other hand , never play for lucky chances, since it generally likes to avoid me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Not always true. [snip]gun hits[/snip] I on the other hand , never play for lucky chances, since it generally likes to avoid me. I'd say that the "lucky gun hit" is something the other guy always gets on me (if there's any got at all)... so going up against that UberKitteh without a flank advantage would remain futile... I'm sure we all feel that way at times. I've sustained two "ricochet into" top front armour penetrations on Panthers, so I know what bad luck is... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miller41 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Ran out of smoke just getting to the position i am now, 80mm mortars are not going to move a panther, but i am trying. And if I could put rounds near him i would, but this guy is in the best position I have ever seen, side of a hill with a hedgerow on his flank and a building partially screening him. If i get enough of an angle to put rounds near him, he can see me:-( As the original poser said, i am terrible with tanks too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miller41 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 If you truly can't flank him, doesn't that mean he's keyholed and you can, with due dilligence, just avoid his field of fire? Because trying to kill a Panther frontally with short 75s is simply an exercise in making the Jerries repaint their glacis and requisitioning new tanks and crews from the repple depple. Doesn't matter how good you are at "Tactics". he has help on his flanks, thats how I got to where i am, trying to flank another panther someplace else that killed 3 tanks before i got enough intel to know what it was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Wenman Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 @ miller41 you're not playing Crossroads at Monthardrou by any chance. If so you really can beat that Panther without too much grief. P 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I was just browsing the manual and Steve (or whoever the author was) advised to not play Russians like Americans or Germans. Russian doctrine would demand a Company be sent where Americans might send a platoon. And no fancy tactics, rush forward and blast away! A dug-in tank only has one gun that can point in one direction at any one time. Use that to your advantage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A co Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 If the target is relying on a building for cover, it would be a shame if the building got flattened by shellfire. As the man says in a certain Monty Python skit, 'Things break, y'know...' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macisle Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 If the target is relying on a building for cover, it would be a shame if the building got flattened by shellfire. As the man says in a certain Monty Python skit, 'Things break, y'know...' I have used that for several hiding AI tanks in my current battle. Always feel a little guilty for the property owner, but such is war... I was just browsing the manual and Steve (or whoever the author was) advised to not play Russians like Americans or Germans. Russian doctrine would demand a Company be sent where Americans might send a platoon. And no fancy tactics, rush forward and blast away! A dug-in tank only has one gun that can point in one direction at any one time. Use that to your advantage. True. On the other hand, if you have T34-76s, watch the spotting. I had a single Stug take out four swarming tanks once at point blank ranges because they managed to arrive slightly staggered and each time, the enemy Stug spotted first and got off a killing round before my next friendly tank could spot. Rinse and repeat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 ... Now back to the match, pull my tank out into battle, range about 1000 yards. One T34 up in smoke, then a second. then the gun is damaged. Crap It never fails, I lose more guns on my heavy armor, just poor luck. ... Me too, I almost never buy Tigers or King Tigers these days because every single one I've ever bought has sustained "Gun Damage" after scoring between 0 and 1 kill. :mad: Considering I've bought a truckload of Panthers over the years and have only had Gun damage on 3 - ever - across CMBN and CMRT, I feel the Tigers get a bum deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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