Toblakai Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Although it is a nice effect when units pass water (water animates for fording units), but unfortunately you can see movements of the enemy, you should not see. Or is that the new secret weapon "Cloak of Invisibility" (Protection +2) See attachments: The Axis side has no LOS to the soviet units or the water You can use any map with water and a ford. Just start a hotseat QB and test it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Ah, the silent pond has ripples which presage that which is yet to occur! The moon laughs at the owl. The maiden's silk nightgown sighed its lamentations as it lay on the floor. All of which is to say...this is a known issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblakai Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Known to you, O great philosopher 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymru Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Although it is a nice effect when units pass water (. That's nothing: wait untll you see what happens when they poop! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix_45 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Ah, the silent pond has ripples which presage that which is yet to occur! The moon laughs at the owl. The maiden's silk nightgown sighed its lamentations as it lay on the floor. All of which is to say...this is a known issue. LOL at your reply but........ Is this an issue that is known by all or only those who are fortunate enough to be members of a secret inner circle? Ha ha Is there a document that lists all "known issues" for an average player like me could read? That would even out the playing field I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 No, there's not a listed document of known issues...unless you're a member of the beta cognoscenti, like some who have posted in this thread. I could tell you about it, but I had to pledge an oath to the Northern Democratic Alliance, or something like that, which has some sort of monk-like vow of silence. The details are lost to me, but they all kept talking in hushed tones about the "NDA" and the need not to talk. Some monastery with Belgian beer is my best guess. "Hey," I said, "Let's tell the guys about the fancy new phased plasma rifles we're working on!" They said, "Ken, don't whisper a word about it! The NDA! Don't you remember?" NDA this, NDA that. Shrug. All I know is that every Tuesday I get a new parchment scroll delivered by FedEx with the entire list of known issues written on it quill pen with cool little pictures inside the capital letters which start each paragraph. It's edible, too. Meanwhile, if your pond or stream starts rippling, you'd best get some weapons trained on it. Mum's the word... Ken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Your mum is a member of the NDA? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Felix, I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill...Ken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix_45 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Felix, I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill...Ken. As long as I stick to running in the woods you'd never find me.....but if I should happen to cross a stream.....:):) My footy prints will give me away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblakai Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 That's nothing: wait untll you see what happens when they poop! English is not my native language, but many thanks for this witty post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblakai Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 No, there's not a listed document of known issues...unless you're a member of the beta cognoscenti, like some who have posted in this thread. I could tell you about it, but I had to pledge an oath to the Northern Democratic Alliance, or something like that, which has some sort of monk-like vow of silence. The details are lost to me, but they all kept talking in hushed tones about the "NDA" and the need not to talk. Some monastery with Belgian beer is my best guess. "Hey," I said, "Let's tell the guys about the fancy new phased plasma rifles we're working on!" They said, "Ken, don't whisper a word about it! The NDA! Don't you remember?" NDA this, NDA that. Shrug. All I know is that every Tuesday I get a new parchment scroll delivered by FedEx with the entire list of known issues written on it quill pen with cool little pictures inside the capital letters which start each paragraph. It's edible, too. Meanwhile, if your pond or stream starts rippling, you'd best get some weapons trained on it. Mum's the word... Ken Hey Ken, please stop to try be funny. I swing the white flag :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymru Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 English is not my native language, but many thanks for this witty post Yeah, sorry about that, no criticism intended: it was just a reflex reply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 To be fair to the testers, most of the games we played, at least the ones I played were against the AI, and it never complained about seeing water ripples from units crossing streams, whether or not it did see them and reacted to them is something I never noticed. Like the depressions made by bunker graphics, this may be something we have to live with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Water ripples as well has blown walls, fences and bocage tiles all degrade FOW hygiene to a degree. But these do not amount to game killer effects as would visible vehicular tracks. Just sayin'... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblakai Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 Yeah, sorry about that, no criticism intended: it was just a reflex reply. No problem, you teached me a little in English slang 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblakai Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 To be fair to the testers, most of the games we played, at least the ones I played were against the AI, and it never complained about seeing water ripples from units crossing streams, whether or not it did see them and reacted to them is something I never noticed. Like the depressions made by bunker graphics, this may be something we have to live with. To post this bug is no critism of me, but everbody should know it, like with Open Source Software. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I was not criticizing you, merely making a statement reflecting the fact that not every glitch or bug in the game is caught during the pre-release testing process. That is why the forum is an important place for the exchange of information. Please don't take every statement made here personally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblakai Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 At first: I agree with you I was not criticizing you ... Please don't take every statement made here personally. Second: Why do you think this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 By the tone of your posts, which could be misinterpreted because of the language issue, but you did seem to be apologizing for making your initial observation, and not realizing that subsequent posters were just making dumb comments, not personal attacks on you. Misreading posters comments and true intent is one of the pit falls of internet discourse. As you spend more time posting here, I am sure you will see that most rational and critical arguments made about gameplay or bugs will be treated with all seriousness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblakai Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 By the tone of your posts, which could be misinterpreted because of the language issue, but you did seem to be apologizing for making your initial observation, and not realizing that subsequent posters were just making dumb comments, not personal attacks on you. Misreading posters comments and true intent is one of the pit falls of internet discourse. As you spend more time posting here, I am sure you will see that most rational and critical arguments made about gameplay or bugs will be treated with all seriousness. Sorry, but for me it looks like that you interpret something in what is not there. I have not apologized; I just replied your post where you gave an indirect excuse ("To be fair to the testers ..."). I had the feeling that you felt a little guilty in this post and I wanted to take some pressure of you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Fine, we'll just chalk it up to a misunderstanding then. No harm done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 ...and that's why the moon laughs at the owl. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 .....and the dish runs away with the spoon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblakai Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Back on topic My Easter wish to BFC is that they should not waste time and resources for such graphical features. Especially not at the expense of gameplay. BFC will have been aware of the price for this feature. Why they release it I cannot say. I know, pretty graphics is an important marketing aspect, but in Combat Mission should you stand over it and concentrate on the essential, namely gameplay, because that makes the game. "Form always follows function". BFC, just remember it, that’s my Easter wish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFF Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Back on topic My Easter wish to BFC is that they should not waste time and resources for such graphical features. Especially not at the expense of gameplay. BFC will have been aware of the price for this feature. Why they release it I cannot say. I know, pretty graphics is an important marketing aspect, but in Combat Mission should you stand over it and concentrate on the essential, namely gameplay, because that makes the game. "Form always follows function". BFC, just remember it, that’s my Easter wish And my wish is that BFC doesn't follow such nonsensical advice. Whether people like it or not, graphics do matter, and they are part of the overall experience. It's not 2001 and the age of 1024x768 monitors and low-end integrated graphics cards any more. I'll happily take any graphics enhancements BFC offers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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