FancyCat

Hell no, better to force Prig to seize MoD resources.

Thanks for reality check. I’m thinking maybe Putin gives me this, he goes back into Ukraine, but that’s a major increase in Wagner power isn’t it? Any agreement with Prig, not only does he dismiss his loyal people, he probably needs to keep funding and supplying Prig… one of the officers in the above video changed his prior tune.

The best scenario for Ukraine is prolonged conflict between Wagner and MoD. I wonder if this internal power play might just result in quick dismissal of the ppl Prigozhin is aiming at, that wouldn’t be great either, Prig is still a hardliner, one unconstrained too.

A lot of elite troops in southern ukraine, VDV, Spetsnaz……do you think they might get pulled to fight Wagner?

We should be cautious, there’s no evidence of anyone being on Prigozhin’s side. Big chance they catch Prigozhin and the rest of Wagner signs the contracts.

Prig is insane. Still wondering if this is a ploy, it’s insane, for him to go full bore, unless his head was on the line. I’ve heard there were a few MoD officials who joined Wagner, I wonder what or how many units or ranking personnel have sympathy for Wagner, could be swayed into neutrality? budavov is getting another medal for sure, I wonder how Russian pro-ppl are thinking….

If I am recalling, drone attrition is high, including due to EW, this may damper attempts to take out helicopters via suicide.

I would strongly recommend reading it, just depraved **** occurring to civilians, POWs in Russian custody.

Interesting that there's a seemingly a lull, so I think Ukraine will probably strike not in the South, but in the north, to force Russia to run themselves tired travelling to and from hot spots, and opening themselves to being fired on. Consider if Ukraine uses another portion of its reverses to make a push in the Kharkiv region, not enough for a full breakthrough but enough to force a Russian response, just keep doing over and over till a great opening occurs or Russia runs out of reserves.

Guess that explains why no gun run to Tokmak. Thank god NATO has airpower, but we really need to make more armor available for Ukraine as soon as possible.

from WSJ I think, https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-russia-war-offensive-maps-c718da1a No 2nd defense line south of Staromlynovka.

Road network with villages, enables good defense in case of Russian counter attack, by Vasylivka, are you referring to this one? https://goo.gl/maps/FdAB9KiDeP3Mhbjt6 If so, the defense lines in Zaporizhia Oblast are more extensive no? I just posted a thread where it looks like the defenses south of Blahodatne are less extensive than to the west.