Seedorf81
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37 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said:
For those of you who wondered if the top cage armor seen on some tanks could defeat a Javelin... well... I think this might be an answer:
Defeated? A bit of glue, a polish and we're good again!
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1 hour ago, Vacillator said:
Happily I could not see a big red button...
Under the desk..
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4 minutes ago, dan/california said:
Military failure on an incomprehensible world historic scale.
Been reading and learning about all kinds of wars in history since I was ten years old, but this military performance is so stunning that I only can compare it with the chaotic and incompetent way the Italian Army fought during WW2.
I'm baffled.
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Since it looks like the Ukranians are getting a load of weapons and supplies from a lot of countries, how about their manpower? Does Ukraine has enough capable men/women to keep on fighting in a professional way?
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1 hour ago, kraze said:
I'm sorry but no. If "ordinary people" aren't happy with someone in power - they get rid of that guy.
If they don't - they are happy with the guy.
Well, I most certainly do not agree.
I feel that your posts are becoming a little, well, too spiteful for my liking..
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1 minute ago, Bulletpoint said:
No, but few people would be left to really care.
See, every mushroom-cloud has a silver lining.
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21 minutes ago, danfrodo said:
If Putin starts a nuclear war, I doubt there's any point in having his family survive. They'd be killed the first time they came out in public by whoever was around. Does he think if he survived he'd stay in power? He'd hopefully be shot when he tried to order the nukes launched.
Would a nuclear winter solve global warming?
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10 minutes ago, dan/california said:
The only way to counter small drones is with a laser. Guns don't have the range to prevent them from calling fires on you, and missiles are so expensive that using them is just another way to lose the war. I guess there will be lot of drones hunting other drones, too. But I think that takes to long tp prevent the enemy getting valuable intelligence/fire direction information. If wasn't a we don't care what it cost area of work last week, it sure as bleep will be by Monday.
Strangely enough I saw a video where big birds of prey were trained to intercept small drones. And they were pretty good at it. Medievel tactics making a come-back?
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1 hour ago, dan/california said:
This is the absolute military fundamental at the moment, most of the Russian's stuff just doesn't seem to work. Their missiles don't work, their logistics don't work, and their morale and effectiveness rivals that of the Romanians on the Eastern Front in WW2, or the Italians in North Africa. Just epic institutional failure all the way up and down.
Few months ago a US submariner explained on his vlog why he and his shipmates did not fear the latest most modern Russian subs. Even if some of those subs were told to have equal, or even better, capabilities than the Seawolf class.
They had the "never been not true"-experience that every Russian sub the US Navy ever encountered would function perfect for the first six to 12 months, but after that it would be a 100% certainty that a mechanical or electrical problem would arise. Which made more noise than was planned for, and it gave away their position. (Pretty vital.) US (sub)mariners rely on it, this veteran said, and I have no reason to doubt him.
So the Russian manufacturing on their super-secret-top-notch materials was not good enough to last over a year!
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17 minutes ago, Commanderski said:
Unless there were more tanks on the other side of the building I'd be leaving rather quickly.
From the perspective of the tank crew, a man scurrying behind windows and pointing a camera straight at them, looks frightfully similar to a man with a RPG..
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22 minutes ago, Vic4 said:
With the invasion being such an incomparably catastrophic f-up in every conceivable way for Putin and his regime; is there really any way to avoid nuclear brinkmanship at this point and how to proceed in that event? ...As Steve said very far up thread, there's nothing more dangerous than a cornered animal (much less rabid), and now they are even threatening "consequences" for any nation that provides lethal arms/means to Ukraine which most NATO countries have already committed to very publicly. This is a contemporary Cuban Missile crisis but perhaps exponentially worse because it truly is involving the whole world.
...long time (decade+) lurker, own all the games etc. Thanks BF for keeping this thread open. Appreciate any response or thoughts regarding the above question.
If the next week doesn't bring a huge improvement for the Russians, some real military succes, I fear the worst. Like I mentioned in a previous reply: "What can Putin do to safe face??"
Back down? Settle for a small landbridge in the Southeast? While he's been totally humiliated by pretty much the whole world?
I don't think so. Maybe he doesn't even know how bad the situation in reality is, because generals and cronies don't usually like to tell bad news to stressed-out dictators, and he most likely believes the Russian tv/news-reports over those from the West.
A succesful coup doesn't seem very likely to me, since he's already paranoid and a former KGB officer, so he'll be on the lookout for that.
Thinking about it scares the **** outta me, but I think he may go for nukes.
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36 minutes ago, akd said:
A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia's military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era - and in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system - but this is worth talking about separately a little later. Russia is restoring its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together - in its entirety of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.
Nationalists in Ukraine are fighting on the recommendation of foreigners, Putin said. Vladimir Putin has assumed, without a drop of exaggeration, a historic responsibility by deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia - for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of anti-Russia from Ukraine and an outpost for the West to put pressure on us, is only the second most important among them. The first would always be the complex of a divided people, the complex of national humiliation - when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kiev), and then was forced to come to terms with the existence of two states, not one, but two peoples. That is, either to abandon their history, agreeing with the insane versions that "only Ukraine is the real Russia," or to gnash one's teeth helplessly, remembering the times when "we lost Ukraine." Returning Ukraine, that is, turning it back to Russia, would be more and more difficult with every decade - recoding, de-Russification of Russians and inciting Ukrainian Little Russians against Russians would gain momentum. And in the event of the consolidation of the full geopolitical and military control of the West over Ukraine, its return to Russia would become completely impossible - it would have to fight for it with the Atlantic bloc.
Now this problem is gone - Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world. Within what boundaries, in what form will the alliance with Russia be consolidated (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus)? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end. And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era - it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in geopolitical terms as a single whole. These relations have entered a new stage - the West sees the return of Russia to its historical borders in Europe. And he is loudly indignant at this, although in the depths of his soul he must admit to himself that it could not be otherwise.
Russia formed a delegation for negotiations with Ukraine Did someone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believe that Moscow would give up Kyiv? That the Russians will forever be a divided people? And at the same time when Europe is uniting, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control of European integration from the Anglo-Saxons and assemble a united Europe? Forgetting that the unification of Europe became possible only thanks to the unification of Germany, which took place according to the good Russian (albeit not very smart) will. To swipe after that also on Russian lands is not even the height of ingratitude, but of geopolitical stupidity. The West as a whole, and even more so Europe in particular, did not have the strength to keep Ukraine in its sphere of influence, and even more so to take Ukraine for itself. In order not to understand this, one had to be just geopolitical fools. More precisely, there was only one option: to bet on the further collapse of Russia, that is, the Russian Federation. But the fact that it did not work should have been clear twenty years ago. And already fifteen years ago, after Putin's Munich speech, even the deaf could hear - Russia is returning.
Russia brought to Ukraine an agreement to organize negotiations, said Peskov Now the West is trying to punish Russia for the fact that it returned, for not justifying its plans to profit at its expense, for not allowing the expansion of the western space to the east. Seeking to punish us, the West thinks that relations with it are of vital importance to us. But this has not been the case for a long time - the world has changed, and this is well understood not only by Europeans, but also by the Anglo-Saxons who rule the West. No amount of Western pressure on Russia will lead to anything. There will be losses from the sublimation of confrontation on both sides, but Russia is ready for them morally and geopolitically. But for the West itself, an increase in the degree of confrontation incurs huge costs - and the main ones are not at all economic. Europe, as part of the West, wanted autonomy - the German project of European integration does not make strategic sense while maintaining the Anglo-Saxon ideological, military and geopolitical control over the Old World. Yes, and it cannot be successful, because the Anglo-Saxons need a controlled Europe. But Europe needs autonomy for another reason as well — in case the States go into self-isolation (as a result of growing internal conflicts and contradictions) or focus on the Pacific region, where the geopolitical center of gravity is moving.
Russia's rights in the Council of Europe suspended But the confrontation with Russia, into which the Anglo-Saxons are dragging Europe, deprives the Europeans of even the chances of independence - not to mention the fact that in the same way Europe is trying to impose a break with China. If now the Atlanticists are happy that the "Russian threat" will unite the Western bloc, then in Berlin and Paris they cannot fail to understand that, having lost hope for autonomy, the European project will simply collapse in the medium term. That is why independent-minded Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new iron curtain on their eastern borders - realizing that it will turn into a corral for Europe. Whose century (more precisely, half a millennium) of global leadership is over in any case - but various options for its future are still possible. Because the construction of a new world order - and this is the third dimension of current events - is accelerating, and its contours are more and more clearly visible through the spreading cover of Anglo-Saxon globalization. A multipolar world has finally become a reality - the operation in Ukraine is not capable of rallying anyone but the West against Russia. Because the rest of the world sees and understands perfectly well - this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlanticists, this is Russia's return of its historical space and its place in the world.
No one in Europe wants to fight Russia, China and India, Latin America and Africa, the Islamic world and Southeast Asia - no one believes that the West leads the world order, much less sets the rules of the game. Russia has not only challenged the West, it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over. The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers of power, naturally, together with the West (united or not) - but not on its terms and not according to its rules.
As a non-American, who worries a bit about the recent state of Putin's psyche, I haven't forgotten that the USA had it's fair share of leaders with peculiar behaviour. Bush jr. and Trump had some moments that baffled me, to say it kindly.
But this is even more worrying. How in the name of #*^*# can any intelligent person believe this nonsense? If they really think this is true, they are in need of a serious conversation with a psychiatrist.
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When playing the Black Sea scenario's as US, I always relied on the Javelins to kill Russian armour.
Has anyone any info on the effectiveness of Javelins in this war??
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36 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said:
"Justifies"? Nobody needs to justify making a post here. It would be nice if your first post wasn't so factually flawed, dismissive, and full of hubris, but you don't have to justify posting it.
Steve
This is one of the best things of the Battlefront Forum: you can post whatever you want. Unless you cross every border of decency and/or common sense, you are TOTALLY FREE to express your opinions.
Read that, Mr Putin!
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About the symbols on the Russian vehicles..
Germans in early WW2 had the first letter of the name of the commanding general/fieldmarshall from army/corps on the vehicles. G was Guderian, L was Liszt, and B von Bock, for instance.
Could it be the Russians did the same now?
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he Haiduk,
I want to thank you for your very up-to-date, and as I see it even under these dire circumstances remarkable impartial, information.
I feel that partly because of that, on this site we are better informed then our national news services are.
It must be weird though, communicating with sometimes judgemental people in safe places, while you are in a spot of bother.
I really hope this crap will end soon and I wish you al the luck possible.
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25 minutes ago, Aragorn2002 said:
Exactly. That's what I'm afraid for. Perhaps they underestimated the willingness of the Ukrainians to fight and hoped for a quick and easy victory. Now they know better, so the gloves will be off.
Yes, I agree.
And to be honest, maybe I would do the same, if I were him.
Empathy is understanding someone's actions/behaviour, without condoning or agreeing.
I would certainly not agree with Putin getting in a state of mind like: "WTF, who the bloody h#ll do those Ukrainians and Nato-f#$kers think they are?? I will show them what I am made off!!", but I can understand that it would be his train of thought.
That is the worrying part..
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3 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said:
Richard Nixon and Donald Trump both asked about the possibility of using nukes when they ran out of viable options from their point of view. So yeah, Putin is thinking about it. He already threatened anybody getting involved with something at least that bad (he didn't say nuke, but it or bio or chemical attacks certainly fit the context).
As someone who has for a few decades studied the collapse of autocracies (almost always in the middle of a crisis of some sort), there is a few common threads to it. In fact, it's common to any organization run by a bully, be it a corporation, organized crime syndicate, or democracy.
At first nobody wants to rock the boat because the first ones usually get "dismissed" (shot, fired, whatever) very quickly and without much mercy.
As the problem gets worse, especially if valued members of the clique are "dismissed", a second tier of concerned members of the inner circle gets involved in discussions about what to do.
Usually there is some outsiders who aren't in the inner circle but are deeply involved in whatever crisis is going on. In this case, Russia's security and military services. They can greatly accelerate the process, either for the good or the bad of the situation by either ratting out people that seem to be waffling or by promising support if they should make a move.
If the crisis comes down to a single decision after enough of this has happened, there may be an implicit or explicit plan in place to deal with it right there and then. Depending on how bad the situation is, how bad the leader is regarded at this point, and how much support for action is felt in the room... action is taken right there or right after.
What happens at that point is often messy. Generally the challenge either works relatively bloodlessly or it fails with the conspirators being "dismissed". Sometimes the leader steps down voluntarily and preserves a cushy life for himself in exchange for calling off the dogs. Rarely it doesn't go well and you get a bloody conflict that is usually decided fairly quickly. Even rarer you get a civil war that lasts for a while.
Russia's history is mixed. The Bolshevik Revolution was horrific. Several General Secretaries were removed without bloodshed. The coup against Gorbachev in 1991 was messy but not horrible, both in its initial execution and in the counter to it. We suspect Putin has survived one specific coup attempt (2014) and probably his paranoia nipped a bunch in the bud. My guess is he could see himself deposed fairly bloodlessly and put into exile or shoved out a window.
Steve
It may be a little naive, but I hope that the Russian people (youth/mothers?) will finally come out of it's - historically understandable - lethargy, and rise up in such numbers that they will overthrow Putin and his cronies.
But I remember also how Hitler could evade the numerous attempt to kill him, or remove him from power.
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Just now, Aragorn2002 said:
I think it's far too early for that kind of optimism. The Russians just started to fight. And what is the situation on the Ukrainian side? The coming days will tell.
As I recall Putin's first attack on the Chechens didn't go as expected, but he just brought more and more troops and firepower and destruction to bear. Grozny was completely flattened, but Putin got his victory. He hasn't forgotten that, I think.
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Suppose you're in Putin's shoes when the attack on Kyiv doesn't bring what you expected..
What will you do? What can you do?
(Bearing in mind that you're in an unstable state of mind, to say it mildly, and your advisors probably won't tell you what you do not want to hear.)
I fear that escalation, even to the point of tactical nukes, will be his choice.
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1 hour ago, Bulletpoint said:
I think you might well be right. An M9 bazooka could have taken out the tank. It can penetrate up to 102mm of armour, according to the Wikipedia... so Tiger II side and rear armour would be no problem.
Which makes the narrative that the infantry didn't dare to engage, while the M8 did, all the more strange.
Yeah, certainly the close range for the bazooka gunners would be a risk worth taking. Most certainly when the tankcrew was distracted by the M8.
There is even the possibility that another gun, being an AT gun or a Tankdestoyer or even a Sherman might have taken the killshot, maybe even hundreds of yards away.
If I recall correctly this engagement took place on the 18th of december where confusion and chaos reigned. Scattered units all over the place, sometimes lost and not knowing where the enemy would be.
We'll never know, I have my doubts on the m8 kill. But if they really pulled it off, I think it was brave enough for a medal of honor.
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While playing the game "Squad" I fired a shoulder launched rpg- rocket at an LAV.
And though I thought the shot was aimed a little too short, and seemed to miss by an inch, the LAV exploded with a mighty bang.
Wow, I thought rather proud, I must be a better shot than I imagined!
But my pride disappeared quickly when further up the road another AT guy appeared. He had fired the killing round, not me.
So I wondered:
Might this scenario explain the "37mm killing the King Tiger" mystery? Could it be that something else shot the Tiger at the same moment the M8 did?
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But according to family legend, Kay said to Ike "Give me one tonight". Ike said to Monty "I'm too busy to sort out the Ardennes, you'll have to do it". Monty said to Jorrocks "I'll be buggered if I'm going to send good Anglican boys down there to help out those non-conformist colonials, who have you got to spare?" Jorrocks said to Paddy "Stop the Jerries on the Meause tonight." Paddy said to John Martins, "Give me five Bedford loads of yer'se strongest Guinness, I need to set it alight and roll it down a bone dry hill in the middle of the desert, so that dumb movie goers in ten years time will think that it is how we beat the Gerry in the middle of a Belgian winter".
Yeah, that "Battle of the Bulge" movie was the worst WW2pic I ever saw.
Until "Fury" came out..
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On 10/29/2019 at 4:13 PM, domfluff said:
It's just a nervous tick. Sometimes you get hit by them when you don't expect it, and thereafter you end up posting "Canister rounds?" every so often.
My nervous tick?
Sometimes I read about it, or see a photo of it, and thereafter I end up posting "Schwimmwagen?" every so often.
How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?
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Looks to me this whole thing is spiralling out of control..
That tv speech from Putin promises the worst. I think he lost his marbles.