Seedorf81
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13 hours ago, dan/california said:
That is THE question of this war. Why don't they look around declare it a disaster/I mean total victory, and go the bleep home?
Against Napoleon things didn't look good for a very long time, but the Russians kept on fighting, and they finally did win.
The Winterwar of 1939 didn't go especially good, to use a nice euphemism, but the Russians kept on fighting and they won eventually.
And well, the summer of 1941 was way, way, WAY worse for the Russian Army than anything else, but they kept on fighting (against any logic or sensible reason), and they won in 1945.
So their history teaches them: how bad it is, even unimaginably bad, in the end we can win.
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Am I the only one who's a little worried about Haiduk being away for so unusually long?
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"Sweden didn't go for the Abrams because of it's poor performance in mud".
Anyone knows if this is true? Is the Abrams bad in current Ukraine muddy terrain?
That would be a bit of a bummer, wouldn't it?
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Great footage of what a loader does in a Leopard(1)-tank.
Made me wonder:
Being a commander, gunner or driver in a tank? Yes, I can get that.
But being a voluntary loader in a tank????? You have to be at least a little crazy, I suspect!
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11 minutes ago, Lethaface said:
Including the imaginary heavy western equipped brigades churned out in weeks (!) that will smash through the Russian lines and drive them in the sea of Azov. I mean I would like to see that, like I'd like to win the lottery. But I don't feed myself with improbable stuff all the time. If anything it sets up unnecessary disappointment and blurs the vision of what is actually going on.
Emotions are a great good but they can cloud ones observation / analysis.
Perhaps the relative lack of new developments the last months fuels these type of social events.
Agree totally.
A lot of people seem to think that with even a limited number of Western tanks the Russians will be steamrolled.
Members of this forum already warned that this ain't gonna happen, but lately it looks like there's a "Wunderwaffen-expectation" in the air..
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Update:
Minister is Dennis Monastyrsky, also other high-ranking officials and two kids among the dead.
Helo hit school.
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Just now:
Kiev suburb, helicopter crashes in urban area, 16 dead, Minister of Home Affairs among dead.
No report on what caused the crash.
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8 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said:
Oh now THAT is interesting. I wonder how long the line of intel agents is that want to speak with him
Steve
Update:
Other newssite says he fought until november, but..
"Prigozjin acknowledged that this guy fought for him, and immediately accuses him of mistreating prisoners"!
This Wagner-guy Medvedev also took incriminating evidence/documents on Wagnergroup and Prigozjin with him.
To be continued..
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Just in:
"Former high-ranking Wagner commander crossed the Russian-Norwegian border on foot and asked for asylum. Didn't want to renew his contract in July 2022 after witnessing executions of comrades.
Says he wants to testify against Prigozjin."Don't know what they mean by high-ranking, but even his name is mentioned.
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3 hours ago, LongLeftFlank said:
Hey, I hope you're right for once Zoker....
I'm confused.. Is this still part of the "beavers"-topic?
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27 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said:
That looked to be a HIMARS hit. Seemed too big for a 155 PGM.
I think we're now seeing that because Russia has either lost or relocated to the rear most of its juicy targets (bridges, HQs, and ammo depots) it has freed up Ukraine's PGMs for use against routine tactical concentrations. Recently there's been a focus on infantry, from large multi hundred concentrations to smaller platoon sized ones. Which makes sense because Ukraine isn't going to sit around doing nothing with these weapons.
What we're seeing in videos like this is how quickly one mistake made under the eyes of a drone can lead to a large tactical unit ceasing to exist. If there were 50 mobiks in that building, I doubt any of them are going to be in combat any time soon. And even if they are, it will likely be with a concussion, hearing loss, etc.
Steve
Yesterday there was an estimate of already 4000 casualties on Russian side at just the recent Soledar battle.
Can't remember CNN or Dutch news or somefink, but seems very plausible.
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1 hour ago, Kinophile said:
Lol
And I thought the music on those Ukrainian and Russian dronekills-artykills-Wagnerkills - andwhathaveyou-twitterclips was horrible!
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1 hour ago, Battlefront.com said:
Daily Beast article on how Wagner treats its prisoner-fighters, including on-the-spot executions and generally treating them as fodder. There's even a bit at the end about Wagner recruiters threatening and intimidating civilians to sign up:
Steve
A lot of those prisoner-fighters are probably longing wholeheartedly to be back in their prison-cells.
Which is, considering the state of Russian prisons, something a lot of people never would have thought possible.
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4 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:
It should. The video shows a lot of things to take note of.
Looks like the Russians had at least a full company worth of troops in this small village. I'm guessing it is what they would call a Battalion. They were backed up by a handful of armored vehicles, which were knocked out or withdrew, leaving the Russians with nothing but light infantry with what appears to have been at least one AGL (fired into Kraken's initial drop off area, causing a couple of casualties).
There was some artillery supporting them, but it didn't seem to be very effective. One drone shot showed a bunch of rounds hitting an empty field. Could have been rocket type. It would seem they didn't pump a lot of rounds into to the village. Earlier in the war I would have expected a lot more activity.
The jumpy editing makes it difficult to tell exactly what the results were, but I'd say from what we saw the equivalent of at least one Russian platoon, perhaps two, were taken prisoner and a squad eliminated. Better part of two platoons ran away en mas. At least one tank, one BTR, and one BMP-3 were knocked out.
On the Kraken side, it looked to be maybe two platoons, maybe three, backed by at least one tank, one BTR-4, and several light armored 4x4s (plus the battlefield taxis). Kraken casualties we saw consisted of about a half dozen guys with extremity wounds.
To summarize, it appears that Kraken attacked with inferior numbers and succeeded in routing the defenders. In part because they prepped the area with fire beforehand (mortars and Grads) and drone recon. One of the platoon sized units they captured was seen on video going into a basement and Kraken was able to neutralize them because hiding in a basement isn't smart if the enemy knows you're there.
Steve
What strikes me most, is how difficult and expensive it is to win back such a small piece of ground.
Ofcourse, ammo and fuel are costly, but this clip shows eerily good how enormous the strain of combat is on physical, psychological and emotional levels. It's just a few hours of fighting at the most, but I can barely imagine how exhausted one must be after such an engagement.
And then having to do that day after day, months on end.
No wonder there's a limited time that soldiers can be functional at the frontline.
War IS hell.
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17 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:
Egads, I most definitely did not. That's just the thing... people who think all Republicans adore MTG are just as wrong as those who think all Democrats think the sun rises and sets on OTC. I should be able to criticize Carlson and Fox without it being interpreted as an attack on Republicans AT ALL, either in part or in full. Last time I checked Carlson is not a spokesperson for the GOP and Fox is a private corporation run for profit.
Sorry, missed it. Wingnut = someone who believes Jewish controlled space lasers start forest fires. Wingnut = someone who thinks Putin is the good guy in this story because he's standing up for white Christians against the Muslim and gay menace.
Hopefully you will go back and re-read what I wrote and understand you read something I didn't write. As far as I'm concerned, Carlson is RINO. He holds none of the ideals of Reagan, that's for sure.
Steve
For non-Americans, like myself, who haven't a clue what all those abbreviations mean, "URBAN DICTIONARY" is your solution. Easy to find, no paywall or anything, easy to use.
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I once heard a young woman say something like this:
"It isn't that difficult to keep a boyfriend/husband happy. Men are stupid, give them sex once in a while and - maybe as important - tell 'm they're doing a good job. DO NOT START NAGGING, but give them compliments and they'll do everything for you and won't leave. It is THAT simple."
I think that she said some wise words, and that her words (ehm, except for the sex-part) apply for "NATO/The West".
So for those who feel that the NATO/The West does not enough for Ukraine, read her words again. Might be helpful..
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5 hours ago, Reclaimer said:
I'm trying to be cautious of my very pro-Ukrainian bias, but that looks super staged to me. The "executed" guys seem remarkably chill about the whole thing. Three of them and four guards and they walk that obediently to their deaths? They even hurry into position at the end. They're not being moved at gunpoint. As far as I can see, the guards are holding their weapons at the low ready right up until they fire. They're clearly not blind folded, because they line up pretty neatly without anyone guiding them into position (and you can clearly see that there are a bunch of branches on the ground). Then, immediately after the "execution" there's a cut so the drone can get close enough to see the armbands (note the poster explicitly points these armbands out as evidence that they're Ukrainians and the armbands are only really visible in that last bit). Pretty helpful of the guards to stay lined up like that while the drone got into position for the final shot. And then the guards see the drone and open fire - that's pretty convenient timing so you can cut the drone footage and the "executed" guys can get back up.
Unless new information comes out about this via some other channel, I'm going to say that this is staged. And not even staged very convincingly.
About going quiet to execution.
If you do a tiny bit of not very difficult research you'll find that nearly all people who know that they're gonna be executed, are usually strangely docile. That behaviour is way more "normal" than resisting.
See:
Jews being shot by Einsatzgruppen
Chinese being buried alive ( or beheaded or shot etc) by the Japanese.
French, Dutch, Belgian, Greek, Yugoslav, Russian (etc etc) partisans being hanged or shot by Germans.
Russians executed by early RED army, White Army, Gpoe, KGB etc,
German warcriminals behing hanged, strangled or shot by Poles, Dutch, Americans, Tsjechs etc,
Iranians hanged by their government,
and the list is very, very long.
I don't know why, but it is very rare that people put up a fight.
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I'm sixty years old and practically all my life I have been struggling with the phrase "WARCRIMES".
As I see it, war is by definition a crime and we humans ALWAYS commit horrible crimes during war, civil wars, uprisings, revolutions, conquests and even in peacetime.
Romans, Persians, Dutch, French, Spanish, Aztecs, Vikings, native -Americans, "Arabs", African tribesmen, Chinese, Russians, Japanese, German, and yes even Americans and Canadians and the British (and every other large group of humans), exploited, killed, maimed, tortured and executed their opponents. Be it real or suspected opponents, that is.
Most people, certainly in the West, have the illusion that war can be fought in a "rather clean way".
In my opinion the whole morality-stance on the "yes or no" execution of these Russian prisoners is a waste of time. It is a part of war and as long as we humans go to war, these combat-crimes will happen. I fact, it is a miracle that there are so much frontline-soldiers that DO NOT commit "warcrimes".
I do think there is a big difference between combat-crimes and noncombat-crimes, but if you really want to stop warcrimes, stop war.
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37 minutes ago, Beleg85 said:
First confirmation of CAESAR being hit:
Merde!
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3 hours ago, Haiduk said:
Open day in psychiatric clinic - members of NOD social-political movement (eng. NLM - National Liberation Movement), which positioning itself like ultra-conservative and putinists march across Moscow streets chaunting for nuclear strikes on USA and for "offensive on Washington", and Putin's slogan that "[after nukes] we will go to Paradise like martyrs, and our enemies just will croack"
Well, give them an AK and a uniform, and put them on a (fast) bus to the frontline.
Let's see if they put their money where their mouth is..
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2 hours ago, MSBoxer said:
Seems that last mobilization went so well that RU is asking more citizens to join the party.
Hmm, you would almost consider the following..
Although not as bad as 20 years ago, USA prisons are still pretty much overcrowded.
Why not giving Putin payback with an offer for US-inmates to join the international legion in Ukraine?
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1 hour ago, Beleg85 said:
To be fair Ukrainians also endured terrible driving accidents, and roads in autumn are now getting even more dangerous. Since artillery is so deadly in this war, many people died simply driving wildly with supplies to the frontlines. One reporter told that in quiet sectors more people may die monthly as results of this issue than in Russian strikes; real dead zone is 1-10 kms behind the trenches, where both cars and armour are forced to push the pedals to the maximum.
Thnx for this info, I would never have guessed that it is such a big problem.
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57 minutes ago, akd said:
Hard fight for a Russian bunker:
Looks a bit like footage from ww2 Okinawa. Horrible for both sides.
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1 hour ago, Battlefront.com said:
About Russian morale... I've had some thinking on this and am curious to know what people think.
I think Russians have a peculiar type of morale. Many of Russia's forces are unhappy enough that they refuse to attack, they even sometimes kill their own, and generally they are not reliable. The list of reasons is long, but it includes things like KNOWING they aren't adequately equipped, no faith in any level of leadership, knowing their personal chance of survival is not great, they aren't fed regularly, etc. However, when push comes to shove quite a lot of them will fight doggedly on the defensive instead of running away (others do, of course, run away).
In Combat Mission it would be akin to being unable to move a unit into combat, but if left alone having it continue to fight even after getting beat up. This can happen in CM when units have low morale, but it is not likely to. At least not to the extent I think we're seeing this in the war.
This begs the question... should CM have some sort of way to distinguish a unit that is fragile when attacking but not when defending?
Steve
Well, it has been said that the British infantry during ww2 in general was better at defending than attacking.
Wouldn't go so far as they were "fragile" on the attack, but a difference was noticeable, so that would be a nice addition in the game. (The French fragile when defending? The Italians fragile all over? And so forth..)
How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?
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Boy, this thread is racing recently, can't keep up, so that explains the "late" reaction.
I'm not the only one who struggles, I suppose, with keeping up?!