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I normally have little interest in these small theaters of operation but your other works make me anxious to give this one a try also.

I am in summer 44. MOD seems pretty good. I like being able to actually try out some of strategies not available due to cost.

Be sure and update the 3rd Reich when the enhancement pack is released I am having a great time playing it and would be most disappointed to lose it. Thanks Jim

Thanks for your opinions seems that many agree with my ideas here. I really enjoy the AI game it plays historically and I find alot of fun but I am doubtful I will play again verses a human unless I am sure we are going to have some history involved. I dont mind people invading something different but there should be reasons behind it not just random slaughter. Have fun catch you all after my rafting vacation.

That is my problem no consequences in game terms for invading. I know there was a plan to invade Switzerland but it was solved by agreement prior to the actual attack by Germany. The French colonies do not bother me. Sweden I really do not see the Axis invading but your allies would certainly question an invasion. It would have given thought to Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria I suspect. Ireland I really doubt would have been invaded by either side but no consequences. There is a diplomactic part to the game but nothing changes any opionions except diplomacy points? Churchill can attack Norway, Ireland, Portugal, Spain and whatever and the other nations would consider that okay. Not sure that much fantasy is where I want to be. I have stuck with games that where normally historical. War in Europe, Campaign for North Africa, War in the Pacific, Third Reich and Advanced. Each time I played a computer game without what I consider real limits on diplomacy I have backed off play. Luckily with this game I can play historically against the AI but I will have to really consider if I want to play a fantasy game against humans using WWII as the backdrop.

storeforest2@aol.com Thanks for the files. I use a download manager so that was not it. But it did try without it and that didnt work either.

I am presently in my first game of human vs human and I find it really horrible. It is so ahistorical it feels like a fantasy game. Do most games with human players end up with the players attempting to take every country in some race to capture the world. Or do some players play quasi historical and not attack Sweden, Switzerland, Vichy France, Algeria and every single place they can reach. I have pretty much decided to stick with AI play because it does play historically and I really enjoy playing against what happen. Please let me know because I like the AI game but as it stands I never intend to play another human because if I want fantasy I play Civ.

Interesting! Some luck but there is always some luck. Looks like Germany was unprepared and got hosed for making a mistake. Betcha that port is guarded next time.

I have now downloaded other Cmmods but still cant download this one. Any ideas?

I do agree certain countries equipment was just not up to par. Especially that of Italy but there bombers where definitely not second to any. Each country seemed to have certain pieces of equipment that was just better then others. England seemed to make the best fighters. Germany antitank was second to none. Russian tanks are some of the best on the market etc. But with a game of this scope I am not sure we want to get that involved in each piece of equipment. It would be interesting to see a special piece for each nation but then we would argue which is best. It does seem that somethings are too expensive compared to others but the balance seems correct. BTW it took 8 years to develop the M16 and 15 more years to make it work correctly. War always shortens development times since the items required are so necessary for survival.

I do agree certain countries equipment was just not up to par. Especially that of Italy but there bombers where definitely not second to any. Each country seemed to have certain pieces of equipment that was just better then others. England seemed to make the best fighters. Germany antitank was second to none. Russian tanks are some of the best on the market etc. But with a game of this scope I am not sure we want to get that involved in each piece of equipment. It would be interesting to see a special piece for each nation but then we would argue which is best. It does seem that somethings are too expensive compared to others but the balance seems correct. BTW it took 8 years to develop the M16 and 15 more years to make it work correctly. War always shortens development times since the items required are so necessary for survival.

Thanks for the invite arado. I will take you up on it when I return from vacation. I leave on Tuesday for some white water rafting but I will be back the 27th. I am presently getting my first lesson from another from the board but I am retired so plenty of time. I will let you know when I return.

"Also Rocket Science and Infantry Weapons are not the Same. If you invest money in Assualt Rifles there is no breakthrough technology there. Any Major Nation has the capability to upgrade such a weapon without "Chance!"" Not sure I agree here. Many times the newer more modern latest is not necessarily the best. The M16 rifle is a good example when released it jammed all the time. Compared to the M-14 it was simply not a good weapon. Even the later M16A1 version was inferior. You could not chamber a round and have it ready since it had a tendacy to form a vacuum in the barrel and could actually explode when fired. The weapon was never able to be used with a 20 clip of ammo due to jamming. The M-14 had none of these faults sure it was not a mattel toy weight but it was accurate or dependable. Chambering you weapon prior to firing alerts your opponent and removes any chance of surprise. It has been 40 years since that weapon was introduced and was not reliable for its first 10 years at least not sure about it now or even if they still use them. Many airplanes have been similiar in dismal performance compared to there predecessors. Electric firing for subs and aircraft is another example. So even though you may not be doing break through technology in some cases the development may not be as good as what you have so all the money maybe lost and you may have to go back to the drawing boards even after you think you made it.

"Also Rocket Science and Infantry Weapons are not the Same. If you invest money in Assualt Rifles there is no breakthrough technology there. Any Major Nation has the capability to upgrade such a weapon without "Chance!"" Not sure I agree here. Many times the newer more modern latest is not necessarily the best. The M16 rifle is a good example when released it jammed all the time. Compared to the M-14 it was simply not a good weapon. Even the later M16A1 version was inferior. You could not chamber a round and have it ready since it had a tendacy to form a vacuum in the barrel and could actually explode when fired. The weapon was never able to be used with a 20 clip of ammo due to jamming. The M-14 had none of these faults sure it was not a mattel toy weight but it was accurate or dependable. Chambering you weapon prior to firing alerts your opponent and removes any chance of surprise. It has been 40 years since that weapon was introduced and was not reliable for its first 10 years at least not sure about it now or even if they still use them. Many airplanes have been similiar in dismal performance compared to there predecessors. Electric firing for subs and aircraft is another example. So even though you may not be doing break through technology in some cases the development may not be as good as what you have so all the money maybe lost and you may have to go back to the drawing boards even after you think you made it.

I would love to try the Cmmods but for some reason they will simply not download for me. I downloaded an RAR loader thinking they might be using that but it didnt help. I have wanted to download the Third Reich but it always gives me zero bits. I did download europa in llmas Cmmods but it was previous verision so it does not work but at least it did download. I am presently in my first email game for this game it is interesting. I did not realize you could actually take Belgium in round 2 never occured to me since it would have not worked anywhere else. I assume the expenditures for operate mount up using that rapid deployment but the Axis is on a limited time so maybe that works only time will tell.

I am attempting to play by email but there is no save button on the multiplayer verision of my interface. I recieved the email from my opponent but when I completed my turn I found no way to save. How do I save without the button?

Dont know what an HvH is. I have a small amount of experience in wargames been playing for almost 50 years now. Yes I am an old fart retired and hard headed. But I am very happy with this game. I play CWIE reguarly but that is only email played there is no AI. I have tried literally hundreds of wargames with AI on computer and none come close to this so far. With Computer War in Europe I find each different player fun it is interesting to see what strange thing they will try. It normally takes about a year to complete a game of CWIE except with others like me with unlimited time and no money or life. With the new expansion coming for this one and since I am having a great time with just the AI so far not really looking for something else except for some email or online play with other players. But a good wargame always interests me. I do not like first person shooters or real time. I am too lazy to attempt to take my actions faster then a computer. I am retired so I am supposed to relax which I am extremely good at.

Nice report of the battles far away. I hope to be participating in on line play and email play after my vacation. I am new to this game but have been playing wargames since 1959 so I am not new to wargames. I normally play Computer War in Europe but after testing this one the last couple weeks I am impressed by both the game and the players. Anyone interested in an email game should contact me at storeforest2@aol.com. On line direct play I will not be available until Memorial day and after since I am off on a rafting vacation. Good Luck!

Just finished a game as Axis didnt recieve an up in rockets for entire game even though I had 2 chits in it from the start. I find that to be correct, however. When you begin research you never know if or when anything will develop. What I do is develop my military based on what impoves the quickest. That means one game I have planes, next subs, then tanks etc.

Just finished a game as Axis didnt recieve an up in rockets for entire game even though I had 2 chits in it from the start. I find that to be correct, however. When you begin research you never know if or when anything will develop. What I do is develop my military based on what impoves the quickest. That means one game I have planes, next subs, then tanks etc.

I have been playing for only a couple weeks but I find the AI quite good compared to any I have seen. It is challenging and fairly historical. Recently tired Making History. That game is a serious AI joke. Well actually the entire game is a joke. No history at all should be its title. Tried most of Grisby stuff and it is even worse then MH. Now I only play with Fog of War so I would not see the air in Brest or evactation which is a smart move. BTW I have also killed that BEF. It has escaped and been killed so.... Anyway, I would not complain about this AI it gives a good game and keeps up the pressure. Feels good and plays well.

This company is so great and there product is outstanding. I will happily buy it.

This company is so great and there product is outstanding. I will happily buy it.

I have attempted to download this mod several times and each time it downloads 0 bits. Is there something special I need to do to download this one? Thanks

I will be buying this as soon as you can make it. You guys are great. Best crew I have seen in wargaming. Thanks