CaptainBly

Yes he does, it's YOU who has no idea what you are talking about.

I'm glad because I hate Vista and I hope more and more games don't work on it and it goes down the crapper. Bill Gates is just trying to gouge everyone again for more money. Vista doesn't do enough of anything in an improvement to warrant moving away from XP. He just made up that direct X 10 to not be compatible to XP to force everyone to upgrade, but, it's backfiring on him. News reports say so and the general public is demanding the ability to buy a new computer with XP instead of Vista now. Hurray for boycotting.

Amen brotherman. I didn't buy the crappy CM:SF because of that either. I see lazy programming out of them now compared to CMBO,CMBB and CMAK. Just lazy and greedy now. Make a half assed game and churn em out like hotcakes.

CMAK is a better game than CMBB. With CMETO you get all the scenarios from CMBO as well as the CMAK ones and all the wonderful terrain, weapons, tanks, etc. I'd never go back to playing CMBB until this Campaigns comes out. I'd much prefer a Campaign of CMAK than CMBB though. But, it doesn't look like we are going to get either.

You sound like a lot of some folks. hahahaha A good wargame AI is one that plays to WIN not to just delay how long it takes the human player to win. Sorry, but, I totally disagree with this. No random map generator = no buyee for me an my wargaming group. We'll just play CMAK or CM-ETO instead of shell out good money for less than we've gotten before. This module business is just money grubbing anyways. Maybe they'll get it right by the time they release the WWII stuff. [ November 29, 2007, 09:10 AM: Message edited by: CaptainBly ]

A wargamer doesn't care about looks, a true blue wargamer that is. A wargamer cares about play value, longevity, quality and challenge. Put in all the fancy smancy pictures and artwork you want. If it doesn't fit into the Elite Four then it's just another game that wanted to be a wargame. CMBO, CMBB, and CMAK will be hard to surpass in the Elite Four catagories. No amount of sugar coating CM:SF will ever implement will put it up on the pedestal and superority of the Elites we already have.

I agree if it had sold more than both over the years it would be in the top 10 sales charts and well it's not. Someone is just blowing smoke without any documentation.

What They say!

You know how easy it is to make a new name on here and act like you're new or just look new. That doesn't fly one iota that NEW people have actually bought the game. It's more probably people like you making up a new name and login and just being a fanboy or doing something like this to try to disprove others statements I don't put anything past fanbois actions when their game is under attack. You're all like partisains during the issues that come up. It's a war or the words and it's usually the same people on the fanboi side saying the same things over and over in every other thread. Get used to it CM:SF has issues and it's not going to be very popular as word gets out about the UI and camara controls and general bugs/flaws and ctds.

Lol never seen so many people make excuses for crap out of the box. There's no excuse it's a worthless pile of doo. Sorry, I don't go in for this makebelieve they will fix it junk. It should have been that way upon release. People that continue to buy crap like this out of the box really need some help. You might as well go buy a new car without an engine, that's how you do with software. lol

The arguement for RT out of the RT fanbois has always been they believe it to be more realistic for command control. What they are forgetting is all the HOURS of planning before a major battle begins. Nothing in any war happens in the time frame that RT games put into the games and no commander had to use a mouse and click click click to send his subordinates commands to give to their subordinates. Therefore RT is not nor will ever be realistic until it actually plays in REAL WORLD TIME as we know it. Where I have hours to command. Where I don't have to use a mouse to give those commands where I don't have to rush around the screen like a chicken with its head cutoff to give those orders. The single most horrible thing about RT is how much action one really misses playing one of them. You don't get to see ALL the action and that is what I buy games for to play them MYSELF, not WATCH the AI play it. In real time games that is what is happening most often the AI is playing the game and you are just watching or click click clicking like a maniac. They should title RTS games "Mario Does Wargames". lol But, of course the majority of us know that turn based is a thinking mans game and a real wargame and strategy game will be turn based. Chess and checkers preceeding all things have been around a very long time. Teaching that turn based rules and real time is for kids who don't want to think they just want to show how fast they can jerk off. Just look at the majority of your RT games. They all play from a template. You can goto google and get a template for playing these RTS games, but, you can't for playing real wargames that are turn based. Mainly because every game is different an unique unlike RTS games where building in order 1 2 3 and following the template order will net you a victory 9 out of 10 times. I can understand Battlefronts decision to put in RTS so they could bring in more sales from the kiddies. I'm just glad; even though I won't buy this POC hypothetical modern day game that it has the excellent WEGO system for those that will buy it and later buy into what we all wanted in the first place WWII stuff. <goes away grumbling about the time and resources wasted on making this poc game>

Welp there goes 3000+ sales down the tubes then. Thanks for the info.

I need some clarification here. Moon implies there are QUICK BATTLES, yet, I have read in the reviews there are NO RANDOM MAPS...so, does that mean Quick Battles are played on ingame prebuilt maps and there is no engine/feature to create any random maps like the old CMx games? Also, if no random maps...why? ANd will there be random maps in future modules like the WWII ones that are due next?

Yep I sure do The DEMOLAY and we have our specifics about what we WEAR and DO and it's none of your business since you aren't a member. Only very special people get to join. pffft Besides real life is a lot safer than giving some yo yo you don't even know in some other state or country all your personal information (don't do it people). But, if you want to do that silliness and stupidity it's fine by me. I'm certainly not going to fall into such a CLUB online. It's real easy to put FAKE numbers down on an online website. Wanna see? We have 3000 members in the club against not giving out your real name and address or any other personal information online. See, how that works pal? lol 240 members my eye.

ahahaha don't hold your breath kid this game would never reach the top of computer wargaming even if Creative Assembly put their name on it. Keep on dreaming though kid, in your dreams only can your dreams come true. hahaha

I'm always impressed with the PCgamer UK reviewer he always hits the nail on the head and puts many a game in the coffin that deserves it. You can bet when he does give a high score that the game is near perfect. He's one of the few quality reviewers left around. This is one of the few times I think he was a bit generous on the score of this game, but, 60% is at least putting it in its place.

posted June 11, 2007 01:07 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Personally, I think the best thing about the new engine will be the vastly improved gameplay. Personally, after I got CMBB I never went back to CMBO. I tried one more BO game, but the gameplay was just lacking in CMBO compared to CMBB. I feel that the gameplay difference between CMx2 games and CMBB/CMAK will be such that I just wont be able to play BB/AK anymore. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everyone knows by now the engine hasn't changed that much at all, it's more of a graphics upgrade than an engine upgrade. Those that have previewed CM:SF have already responded of this. Instead of getting a whole front we are going to get modules so Battlefront can milk all the $$ they can out of the newer engine, but not really offering up anymore than a new hypothetical scene in this first release. Your dreams of grandeur will just go poof when you finally get the game and see it's not much more than what AK or BB already is except for the graphics. I'm not particularly fond of the first release and thus won't be buying it anyway. But, if/when CMC is released I will be buying that because it improves upon an already great engine. It's everything in one package and not 20 different modules for $35-$50 just milking the donkey on some newer and sharper graphics. Also if you never downloaded the mod CMETO then you are missing out on all the Western front missions from CMBO, which brings CMBO up to date with CMBB and CMAK by the way it plays. You get the best of all worlds in CMETO and since it uses the CMAK engine you don't have to keep both on your hard-drive. I just play CMETO and CMBB now.

SPWAW and CLOSE COMBAT origionals are already dated and they are being played more than your run of the mill lame productions like TOW and upcoming CM:SF will be. Dated does not mean bad or unplayed. Many still play the old dated games as opposed to the crap released nowadays. I certainly do and my gaming group certainly does. We don't play these kidde clickfest games either. We play adult wargamer games. CMC will be welcomed and outsell CM:SF and TOW combined when/if it's ever released. Probably spark new life into CMBB and increase sales of it after CMC is released. Even bundle paks will be bought I'm sure.

Don Rickles in a war movie is the worst thing that could happen to that movie. He never fit into either one of them because he was just too well known for being a critic comedian. It's like Tom Hanks in "Saving Pvt. Ryan", he just never fit the part, he's too well known for playing the child actor turned man in "BIG" or "Philidelphia". I couldn't believe they cast him as star in "Saving Pvt Ryan". Charlie Sheen or Keifer Southerland I coulda seen, even Michael J. Fox woulda worked. lol I didn't think Hank did a very good performance in that movie. It just reminded me too much of Opie Taylor goes to war. lol

Did anyone ever do a Pacific War mod with uniforms and tanks and stuff like they did for Overlord, but, for the CMAK or CMBB games? I'd like to be able to play using the features of CMAK or BB vs Overlord since it doesn't have all the neat things these others do like cover arc and move to contact and shoot n scoot and stuff like that. Anyone know? Got a link? I'd be very grateful.

Band of Brothers wants wayyyy too much personal information as far as I'm concerned. I ain't givin nobody my real name, my phone number, where I live or anything of the sort. I don't trust half the people online and don't believe anything the other half says. lol Anytime a site like that wants that much information about you, I suggest you be very skeptical I don't care how many post otherwise.

Codename Panzers One is better than this thing. At least you can enter buildings, use medics, resupply, onboard mortars, off board areoplanes look awesome, from regular bombers to dive bombers. It even has paratroops who drop down during the mission. It has random battles or build your own. Gawd this thing doesn't even come close. If I'm going to play a real time game I'd rather play one with a lot of stuff and more of it. This game is like half finished, doesn't off half of the stuff others do.

Now that the boring news is out of the way when is the WWII module going to be available? I could hardly give squat about modern day wargames nor real time clickfest such as TOW. Bout time you got down to your bread n butter games like WWII and CMC's.

That's not funny either Vergeltung cause tomorrow could always be tomorrow and thus never come cause it's tomorrow.

That wasn't funny Moon. To us who are faithfully waiting for this game to read it's going to be another 45 years is just not funny. Now, how about something more realistic?