Denwad

Yes, top penetrations are modelled for everything, to test it I just made a Js-III (III!) catch fire! I just made a huge pillar of earth, used 5m terrain, pillar elevation 18, and I set the rest of the earth to 0.

or the russians bought the Kv-2 in 1941

What you see isn't whats actually there. Lot's of it is abstracted. open field doesn't mean flat putting greens, there are ditches, grass, small rises, piles of stones etc. 50 men in a field and you in a tree like with an AK at 200m. They aren't going to go down like ten pins. You open fire with an inaccurate automatic firearm, you're shaking, because there's fifty of them. You open fire, a shattering stacatto of fire rips across the field. The enemy men are suprised, their crouched, advancing posture presents a small cross section. The enemy was anticipating some action, they hit the dirt. You can't tell if you hit them, they're already opening fire at you. You're not sure if they know where you are, or if they're just firing sporadically to keep you down. You, fanatic to defend your home village, reload and keep firing toward them. Your hands are shaking, you're thinking of what to do. You can't retreat, if these men advance you die. A minute later (XD) one of thier squads starts up and runs toward the tree line, the others firing toward you. Bullets smacking into wet dirt, rattling the trees and a small mortar has started shelling your fox hole. You reload and keep firing, the enemy squad gets close, you snap some shots off at them. One of them tumbles to the ground. You're not sure if you killed him or not. You'll never find out, because one of the other 3 squad's LMGs opened fire on your position. 7.92mm bullets smack into you all over, you finally take cover. You throw your sole grenade, and then notice a roaring, clanking sound. You peek up just in time to see the 75mm gun of a STuG III spout flame. Lesson, warfare isn't a nice thing where you're in a perfectly prepared position with flat putting greens to shoot the enemy.

what? no I play the game

HAHAHAHAHAHAH I've had a PzIVJ taken out by a Su-76 after the IV missed a 99% hit chance shot.

what? They think that 35 degrees at zero degrees at 100m is too high.

The people here seem to think it's too high.

Well the lynx is a big and roomy tank with a lot of room for a penetration to not hit anything.

yeah, they're pathetically funny in WWIIOL, it's practically the only thing the Pak-36 can kill from the front.

the M9 Rifle Grenade was developed from a french rifle grenade I believe

That's because almost all of 7.62x39 is steel-core BTW it usually does, unless you're fighting a vehicle armored with boiler plate, regular ball ammo isn't going to penetrate more than 2-3mm.

Sergei, Joachim, it was already done It's called the JagdTiger

Yes, everyone knows a Russian couldn't possibly do that!

The proper term is battle rifle, fools. Same as the M14, FN-FAL, L1A1 so on so forth...

yeah, I just used a PzIV in a CMBB QB yesterday, that was knocked out by a SU-76 that I ignored and stuck around for the rest of the game. Su-76 survived three infantry assaults

^ yes I would, however, like to see a Gewehr 41/43 modeled at random like the PPSH in German squads

Seems to be VERY cost-effective. Those Steil granates are very effective one hit killers. I've had one take out 3 T-34s and a KV-2 while remaining uninjured. Of course, agaisnt AI, I shall test it in a QB later today.

nt

Maybe that's why it takes them 11 years to bail out!

Well, the CM engine abstracts a good many things. See how the Magnetic-mine range is 30m? giving a fire order in CM means that someone is running up to the tank and attaching a mine directly to the tank.

Of course, one can do that right now, so your logic is flawed.

Sure is, those things are trash.

As I'm saying, of course I could, I'm 1/8th Finnish! j/k I'm not a regular computer geek, even though I'm never outside. Ok, my specs. Age: 14 Weight: 170 Height: 5' 11" Shoe size: 11 1/2 Bicep mass: Some, hovering well over pathetic though. In CM I never order my squads to follow a vehicle unless it's engaging a seperate target, stopped, and most of the infantry around it is dead/cowering/running away. 68.1.50.130 < I'm memorizing my IP. {EDIT} However, my endurance is quivalent of a Green unit on Advance up a slope. {EDIT-2} I'm pretty sure I couldn't hit anything moving. I'd rather be firing something with some more standoff than 30m [ February 06, 2004, 10:06 PM: Message edited by: Denwad ]

Before you complain, try to oust a US HQ with Itie troops :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I always loved it in Close Combat III where I could foster troops through combat. Sometimes I would send my favorite squads into CQB, only to have the massacred I was always depressed for several days when that happened.