Desert Dave

You Lucky Duck! What a water wonder land! Well, We don't live it out so bad, MUCH drier, and yet, There is that Rio Grande river Where you can raft the white-waters From Taos Canyon All the way to Santa Fe! What a grand adventure, though, You gotta NOT get toppled over Due to the tremendous under-tow. Anyway, Here is a PIC of the wife & I dancing To the rip rousing tune Of - "Happy Days are Here Again!" On the veranda of our adobe hacienda (... we have turquoise colours splashed all around our doors & windows - see, it's an old Spanish antidote so to keep them Diablos, IE, "devils" - out!): Then we had first learned SC-2 had - gone gold! (... hmmm, either that or it was then we had listened to the 2006 American Congressional election results on that amazing blue-bird radio!) Gold! Like the sun hereabouts! Yep, 362 out of 365 days a year We get that crystal brilliant! sun shining mighty Fine mystics onto the high desert! ________________________ BTW, Since you like motion pictures, We just viewed DVD recently Of a truly inspiring film, HIGHLY recommended! "Paris Texas," Directed by that great GErman Stage Magician, Wim Wenders, Starring - Harry Dean Stanton And Natasia Kinski, And written by Sam Shepard With co-assistance from Kit Carson. It's about... no, never mind, I'd rather you see it as though possessed With praeternatural eyes, nope, don't Want to give away EVEN - one fabulous frame of it!

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What're you K-worth? Active member of RNC these days? (... IE, Republican National Committee whoso j'accuse! ANYBODY who disagrees with their, ummm, authoritarian agenda, as being angry or traitor or some damn fool thang ) Enuff of that guff stuff! I ain't enny Crudely fashioned Voo-Doo Doll You ken stick Ball-hat-pins in. Pardon me, (... I guess I was comparing To # of units in SC-2?) Sir.

LOL, Well, I won't speak for Lars As he is MORE than able To state his own case, And needs no help from me Or that peripatetic Bromley, Or anyone else for that matter, yep, He is apparently - inner directed. (... see below) I must admit... there are THOUSANDS Of things that I don't "get," ah, Perhaps it is that I am... stupid? Since some folks suppose there IS Such a thing? IE: WRT Humans, and not O/W. Which is ridiculous if not absurd, But, That's how they like to look at the world, With mule-blinders on, so to speak. However, here It is abundantly UN-clear Just... what it is that I don't - get? Maybe the next few quotes will Provide the clues? ANYTHING "could have been" something Other than what it was. Should have been Is a whole 'nother smoke, Jamoke. Better? - sure, there's an ideal! No thing is EVER... perfect. Except for... the London Werewolf's hair, That is. That it often is not perfect, Or anything at'all - was not - whose "Fault" is that? CANNOT be Hubert, As you would surely hesitate To venture that HE Could've failed everyone so awfully, True? So, As several others have also implied, Earlier and only recently, It must be! The Play Testers. :eek: Now! We are narrowing it down, at last! Bill and I have been there the longest, So it must be us. Yet... wait! You revere Bill's work (... as we will soon see) So... it must be - me! I am not only paranoid And Emotive! I AM... stupid. :cool: Like my Mom's Brother, my Uncle, Who was the gentlest, Kindest Human I have ever met In ALL these VERY long years Of my one and only life. Wish I could live up to that, But, Alas... haven't yet, mea culpa. Hmmm, I do believe that's what IS occuring Right this very moment, Ain't it? I have. He first sent it to me 6 months ago. He is the best map-maker on the board, Bar none. IMHO. YOU! Who ADORE that Third Reich game, Can notice - can you not? That it does NOT have the SAME scale. Bill's is... ~ TWICE as large, Has... ~ TWICE as many units! Imagine that. No it shouldn't. IMHO. ~50/60 miles per tile is, Like the Baby Bear's porridge, Just right! For a WW-2 GS game. Who, I wonder, was crying The Kansas City Blues (... over at that OTHER forum, which we won't mention HERE, eh? Though we WILL mention SC-2 over there, and, accidentally or no - due to Tower of Babel difficulties, not so favorably) About how LONG the game would take To play, Should such & so be implemented, I forget what that such & so was, But, Actually - don't give a damn What the hell it was. Can you imagine how long it would take To play - PBEM, or HeadhunterVSHeadhunter If the map was... ~25 miles per tile? With ~ twice as many units? And besides, you also revere Third Reich the board-game In all 3 or 4 of it's manifestations, So why? would you want ALL scenarios To be twice as large as that game anyway? Find the quote vveedd, Where ANYBODY ever said such a thing, And post it here in this thread. I myself have never seen it Stated - no way, no how. Maybe you can find it - good luck on that! Well, It ain't enny "right" That is granted by some Authority. It is inherent in the human condition. See, As Riesen has detailed for us In his X-cellent book: "The Lonely Crowd," We have mostly become a group/tribe/clan Of... followers. (... more exactly, "outer-directed" instead of "inner-directed," OR... as Abe Maslow would have it - notso capable of "self-actualization"... now all of that is inside baseball - to me, so I leave it at this: folks seems to CRAVE some sort of guidance from - "above," or sans that, here below, often, from some Bad Cat thinks he knows it all, see what I mean here? As them "good Germans" did... as oppposed to, deliberately, and even - to the bitter dead end, saying what they REALLY think, and feel, WITHOUT ANY cues or prompting from ANYBODY else, and etc) Better for whole dying World Should we be more akin To them what lived in American Frontier, 19th Century. And then! Commence to consider ourselves As capable of... damn near ANYTHING, 'Stead of accepting What is shoved down our throats, And thence, what else? Just... do it. :cool: Read the fine print, Brother. Have a good long look around. THAT statement is very nearly False - now. Give it another 10 years. It won't ONLY be The FBI/Interpol or Geometrically increasing "Derivatives" Of same devious devise, Or, the MegaCorps Who are spying on you. Leaving cookie crumbs All over the shrinking table space, It'll be... everyone Who doesn't believe, Nope, Not... for... ONE... freaking SECOND, That they are... stupid. THOSE are the ones we actually gotta Watch out for. IMHO. Alright, enough of this, I am done with it. (... off-screen, faint-ly now... "yay, hooray!" LOL! ) [ March 10, 2007, 08:30 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]

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"Unrealistic" is, IMHO, how Often the World can be. "Stupid" (... when referring to a living, breathing Human in being) I REALLY don't like Cuz that's how "smart" folks Used to refer to my "mentally challenged" Uncle. Heard it, Didn't like it, Did my best to kick *ss, No matter the relative size Of the bully involved, and, then, Went on to home And found that dark, quiet corner, Beat up some - but glad inside I had stuck up for him. So, Referring back to an earlier comment, I suppose you COULD say That I am indeed, a'times, "Emotional." My apologies for making all of this MORE Than what it might have been, Were I more... "judicious" In word choice, my ownself. [ March 09, 2007, 08:34 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]

Well, Bromley, The Man - manages to speak up, Whatever the lingua franca, For - himself, pretty doggone good, Should you ask me. A Feisty SC kinda Cat All right :cool: And that's how you survive In the "Spenserian" war-gaming world, For sure! No shortage of stout, Near... devout, opinions Here! LOL!

a one ... anna 2 Not if yer "pointing" specifically (... or, inferring, implying, well, you catch the drift) By name, At SC-2. Look, everybody, just... forget it. I am delusional. I am paranoid. I am emotive. I am Stranger In a strange land. I am overly protective of this turf I have fought all across. Whatever. Perhaps this is, As many things are, Quite like the infamous California city Of San Jose, (... to para phrase G. Stein) "There isn't any - THERE, there."

A feisty SC Cat, I like that, Especially, Say - the Brother the one fox-hole over Is eating AK-47 jackets for lunch. Yep, stand-up is... old school. Quitting... ain't so bold, or cool. Think - what if? Armstrong the champ American Biker Or ennybody else afflicted With Cancer for that matter... just quit, And didn't wrestle that dirty-dog Devil of a scoundrel Down to the Ground? Though, here, that wasn't my intent. I meant - QUIT! Bad mouthing SC-2! Ah, you don't EVEN do that, eh? Well, let's select out a few samples: __________________________________ "In SC2 game (sorry for mentioning this game again) I have had very, very stupid situation. AI tried invasion on Norway without HQ unit (quick explanation: HQ unit gives supplies to units and it is only source of supply if you don’t have port or city) and invasion failed. It withdraw unit in mountain tile and stack there with supply at 0. I pay no attention to this unit and it stayed there until end of game!! This is total unrealistic and stupid situation." _________________________________________ Crimeney, there's that STUPID sh*t again! (... twice in one short 'graph, you said it) Who is stupid, in this instance? Because, You CANNOT have a "stupid situation" Without some somebody having Made it so? Can you? Think? ___________________________________ "Nevertheless, this movement rule is now my bigger concern then swapping. Is it possible to move all units first and then attack? Please don’t tell me that you have exactly the same movement rule as SC2 game: move and attack (or vice versa) but if you move unit and deselect it you can’t attack anymore with this unit." ________________________________ Please! Don't have it like that OTHER game, Which we don't gotta mention EVERY time, Since we've been done it often enough That folks must surely wonder? This feisty kinda Cat has got Third Reich on the brain? Sunshine, sturm, drang or, rain. __________________________________ "Hm, hm remember Strategic Command 2 bad amphibious concept. I asked about amphibious assaults earlier but it was too early I suppose. Now we got something but still information’s are incomplete." ___________________________ Bad? Well, This very word choice MIGHT? indicate That the Author has low opinion? Of that 3rd Reich game? I believe you. Yet, that is not the general issue Just now under discussion, "Bad-mouthing," in particular, is. Let's take a moment and consider: It's a given in Show Business (... many other places too, but I'll select an area I happen to know fair thee well) That ANY publicity is good publicity, Even if it be... terrible, Horrible, monstrous or bad. OTOH, Should some stray soul wander in and read Such stuff as you've said above, Rather, The WAY in which you have said it, I wonder? Would they say, hmmmm, That game MUST be WORTH buying? I wonder. Two diametrical points of view. You choose. Given the two choices (... and not the myriad many that are POSSIBLE in between, I mean) Which would most likely be the case. First part - check, me too. Second part - check, mate, and alas, Where went that - tweet-tweet! "Sweet Bird Of Youth," Mister Tennessee? lol I SAID, should you examine more closely, That some folks MIGHT Begin to get That idea, IE, that you are, like Janus, having another Face - at the back of yer head. And naw, I ain't "paranoid" - Man, there simply CANNOT Be any reason For that... heightened awareness, I prefer to call it, IF we must use these usually ill-understood Sorts of "arm-chair" diagnoses, Can there? Given the events of the last 50 odd years In this the land I was born in, Since House UN-American Activities Committee Became posse comitatus, Anyhow. Key word being - posse. Whoso! chase and yell and sometimes Lynch. For no good reason, a'times. Maybe they ain't like - STUPID people? As for emotional... well, there You'd get some kinda vigorous argument From my wife, Who has said it once! If not 10,000 times! "You are just too too stoic, Where ever do you go?" I tell her, 5,000 times - I am just old Alley Cat Has got belly-scratched, And same as that sort of cat, Whenever wounded or "out of it," As we usta say back in the day, I'll go find a dark, quiet corner And lick my own wounds. OTOH, I CAN be "emotive," now & again, And, From what I ken gather, So can 99% of those on this very forum! Perhaps... better to live it out Like... a free floating Mote of Dandelion fluff, Which has - no sides. Though, Somebody here could probably demonstrate Undeniably! On some sort of scatter graph Or hi-tech slide rule Or a real swell bell-curve, EVEN that ain't true. Kidding around aside, and again, Yep, we are after one and the same thing. A better 'n better SC-2! So, I say again - it would be more, ummmm, Judicious of you Not to keep saying Over and over and over and over And over! How... stupid, bad, stupid And so on and so forth, Ad nauseum, That THIS particular game is. Now, You see what I'm gettin' at? Feisty Cat? :cool:

vveedd, Just a kind of friendly suggestion. QUIT! Running over to that other board And shouting all over the place! About how terrible this or that feature Is... with SC-2. How THEY should avoid making The same sort of mistakes, and etc, See what I mean? You CAN make your points, Here, there and anywhere WITHOUT constantly mentioning Or comparing with SC-2, true? Personally, I get a bit disgusted by that, Since I have put damn near 5 years Of my - one and only life Into helping make THIS game The best it can be (... small contributions, and certainly no more than MANY others here have also done over the years). Hubert has staked his own life, His very livelihood, On making, and improving this game, When, I have no doubt, He could be making a LOT more $$$ Using his considerable talent and skills In some other fashion. And so, Here's the thing. Sooner than later folks are gonna get the idea That you are being, ummm, two-faced And even... traitorous, Since very many - not merely me, Have a REAL "rooting interest" In seeing Hubert succeed, and, Do well enough that he would choose To CONTINUE improving this great game. Know what I mean?

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They can land - anywhere and everywhere! And occupy a vacant city. Which is... un-real, at least, to me. Now, IF we should have a Militia/Security Sort of inexpensive unit, well, Then I wouldn't care how many Expensive Amphib Ops you might undertake. As is, For the Axis most especially, There are, at this SCALE, too many Locales to cover. I think you are down-playing the scale here. And, Not allowing for the actual problem, Which is, as stated, The casual manner in which a player Can just throw Corps all over the place. If it was hamlet to 'ville, Sure, Straggling vagabonds would indeed Be able to make a SIGNIFICANT difference, Combat wise. But ~50 miles per tile? Anyway, My best guess? You'll have your status quo. Though, Never can tell, especially If enough folks clamor for a thing.

Valid point, Lars, and yet... if removed, I would also argue, It would have the added benefit Of eliminating a lot of that Stray and VERY a-historical Sort of helter-skelter "amphib Ops." Commandos or Paras could do it, But that is - what? A Brigade, at most? This business of launching VERY expensive Amphibs and floating Corps, or even Armies all over The 7 Seas, Is one thing I really don't care for. Many have made a good point WRT to D-Day, for instance, Just how daunting a task That in itself was, In terms of planning/logistics. Why allow "stray units" (... other than Partisans) To cause such potential mayhem?

Way cool Kuni! A little Scando Mondo quiz! Let's see... "drifted through a dream?" Don't sound quite right, how about? Had eyes like Lucy in Diamond disguise? Nah, that ain't it, ummm, ...lived by the Sea? :confused:

Possibly, but then, They wouldn't - in any militia Sort of sense, BE... an "army," would they? More like a straggling band of vagabonds. Many accomplished and respected war games Simply... removes the unit. I would also favor doing just that. Bill has a good point, WRT to varying turn lengths, So... make it a specific # of days/months, No matter what the "game time." No matter you are playing macro or micro Kinds of scenarios. Maybe a new acronym - CtC, "Cut the clutter," eh?

Gee Whillikers, I have yet to meet... ummm, Let me think on it some... nope, Haven't yet met That one so awful SMART They can casually label some other Cat (... mostly minding 'is own business) As being... STUPID. :confused: And, most especially having NEVER Spent enny time with 'em, Face to face, Where the real deal Gets done, I mean. VERY strange to me That there are, apparently, some folks Who suppose that they know The difference... between Smart & stupid, and, Strangest of all!! Are so... absolutely surely SURE of it, I mean.

Thanks for the most generous offer, Jeff. You have already done plenty, And I appreciate it. Not to worry, I'll get back to it... eventually, no doubt. You know how it can be... a'times You need take a break So to see the "big picture" In a smaller, finer frame (... of Mind), eh? _________________________ And, My apologies to - Bill the Para Dude, For stepping on his thread. Alright, Let's resurrect that great old game Now! In a brand new! package! :cool:

Same to ya, Boardwalk Raconteur! Good to see you back in the game, What with zee Zee Plan, and all! (... looking forward to trying out that one - I ALWAYS managed to "accidentally" select that chit when playing A3R ) I owe you EM, but, well, Been REALLY busy of late, Oh hell, That ain't no excuse For enny decent soldier... will catch up Here pret' soon.

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Thanks for the credit, Mr Bill, Though... I had little to do with this Most X-cellent MOD. The other 2 Dudes did very much more. Yet, have played it some - enough, actually, That I would GREATLY recommend it. :cool: IF you wish X-tremely faithful Gaming - akin to any of the THIRD REICH Iterations, Then - by all means, Give this one a go! :cool: Let Mr Bill know! Yer own opinion and suggestions, He'd appreciate it, of that I'm quite certain. ____________________________ BTW, I have abandoned my own '39 MOD, Which I've been working a long, long time, Oh, a year or so, Because I simply cannot get the right Sprites. The sprites right. The silhouettes to fit, The AI to co-operate. The proper balance, That real necessary... flux and flow. Whatever. No problemo! That's how she goes sometimes, but, I ain't gonna throw some inferior, Half-*ssed junk Out there, nope, nix, no way Jose. Perhaps, Some another time... down that Glory Road. PLENTY of others to choose from, Now that many & most Are getting over enny needless fear Of that - truly unprecedented! Editor. And, ipso Calypso, Are proceeding - very merrily Unheeded.

:eek: :eek: LOL, Now there's a PIC of how The Whole Commercial World Will likely look in, oh, 20 Or - maybe - dreizig yahren? No gas to gun the guzzlers Through the auto-mated gears, But, Plenty smooth room So to Zoom! Around & around And around and around we go - yippee! On makeshift skate-boards And fusion-fueled roller-blades! No problem with sand, of course, For them Egypt Inc. cement works, but I bet... them undule slopes of Garmisch And that venerable old Black Forest Are so doggone denuded you Can merely see clumps of stumps from Eagle's Nest - clear to Nord See, eh? And even worse! Sheriff of Nottingham Is prob'ly - now As we speak - laughing his fat keister off, Since Robin Hood - the near to VERY last Common Dude Hero we got left To 3 cheer for, well, Has no place to hide out There in the Sherwood Forest, So to rob truffles from the rich That he might give Second hand silk ruffle shirts To the X-tremely grateful Poor. A crying shame, you should ask me. **Upshot: I would have it - as it was In the beginning. 90 days to construct a fortification. What? 50+ miles of territory to cover? Say, these ain't enny little ditches With rolled-out strands of barbed wire Propped along on willow sticks, These are supposed as long-standing Double-sturdy redoubts, no doubt? [... given the really robust "defense bonuses" that are applied] No foundation lasts so long When built on constantly wind-shaped Granules of sand? 90 days build time seems more In keeping with actual possiblilty, As opposed to - pitching them things Up - presto pronto! Like some... small town Circus tents. (... anyway, where went? All the Clowns we usta have here abouts? Somebody! Bitte Schoene, Send in some a' them flop-shoe, pancake Made-up, drooling & fooling, Cool in crazy kaleido shades... Clowns, ah, Well - never mind, you ken just forget it, Jake, It's... pretty fragile... China Town, Now... )

Then, No doubt @-Man, You'd VERY much like to see, Would initiate a MASSIVE letter-writing (... anybody write letters anymore? LOL!) Campaign... against! BY FAR, The very worst of the "drugs" In terms of misery, suffering, And doom & death, EVER KNOWN to humanity: 1) Alcohol 2) Tobacco Right @-Man? **After all, X-tensive studies have shown, Oh forget that ipso in facto crap, My own extensive experience In this field has amply Demonstrated, To my complete satisfaction, That: The two groups LEAST likely To cause ANY trouble, ARE: 1) Users of Pot/Weed/Mary Jane (... them auto-cratic sorts on the lunatic fringe - mostly on the far right of the spectrum - EVEN! Wish to deny Marijuana? for... Medicinal purposes, EVEN! Then it relieves suffering, LOL! What hating-hearts we got so - awful self-righteous all over the place, eh?) 2) Users of Crank/Smack/Heroin Funny how it works out, Ain't it? This absurd dichotomy I mean. BTW, Ever wonder WHY so many American Government Programs, Ostensibly designed to help?? The least of us, Are called... War! War on Drugs! :mad: War On Poverty! :mad: War on (... indifferent, non-political, LOL!) Nature Itself! :mad: War War War War War War War! Sometimes you merely gotta marvel. Just how far we've come! These last couple thousand years Of so-called: "Progressive" "Enlightened" "Logico-Rational" ... thinking?? :confused: I say! Let's have WAR! :mad: On... war... metaphors!

Yet again! But another! Superb suggestion, Colin I... ! :cool: LOTS of potential In them there Diplo AND Event And maybe even NEW! Scripts - not now known! Not to mention, As you, apparently, very, well appreciate, There... ARE NO LIMITS To what might, finally, Become... THE most amazing! Game EVER created. WW-2 GS-wise & turn-based, I mean. **For Solo players, Same as for 'em head-hunters too! :cool:

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Solution could be fairly simple, OK, OK, I'll knock! Upon - the Green Door! :cool: [... since it is that YOU know MORE about what's goin' on 'round SC Town than I do, LOLOL! ] ________________________ There's an old piano And they play it hot behind the green door Don't know what they're doin' But they laugh a lot behind the green door Wish they'd let me in So I could find out what's behind the green door (Knocked once, tried to tell them I'd been there) (Door slammed, hospitality's thin there) (Wonder just what's goin' on in there) Saw an eyeball peepin' Through a smoky cloud behind the green door When I said "Joe sent me" Someone laughed out loud behind the green door All I want to do is join the happy crowd behind the green door -- Music: Bob Davie --Lyrics: Marvin Moore ______________________________ And so, hip Bo trip, onward we git: **There are AI Script "mechanics" That provide for "tactical advantage/threat." You know, IF so & so is facing This dis-advantage, Then some events don't happen, Like that there. SO... use something similar, IE, IF a Nation, Major or Minor or Militia Middling, Finds itself in the throes of overwhelming Bad Cat catastrophe, Has odds of, let's say - 4 to ZERO against, (... assuming some sort of "gamey" exploit, as with above account of shenanigans down in them nomad sands of old Egypt) THEN... the non-god Blessed Nation would... capitulate, And the Capital/Country Would automatically Revert to the conqueror, And all that would usually ensue, Duly ensues, IE, Plunder and discord and removal of units. Now, Good thing about this here, T'would ALSO serve to solve Another much-debated issue, A one that I too believe should/could Be included in this ever-improving game. Italy. Once Fort Capuzzo falls in 1940, woooops! I mean, Once the number of Allied forces In Sicily and, pushing on Up from the bottom of the boot Reaches a certain degree of magnitude, A certain "tacital advantage," Which may be as low as 2 to 1 EVEN if we give the benefit of the doubt THEN Italy capitulates. It's a simple matter of including An extra parameter or two In the appropriate AI scripting. How hard that would be? And IF Hubert would even wish to do it, Remains to be seen, As with all else WRT game development. BTW... most beneficial The never-ending Myth das ist Terif, And too, many other Et-als, As with the @-Man, rambo jr, Do indeed play out these helter-skelter, Ram-around, ring-a ding a' Kong-along Kind of games, So antidotes might be implemented. We'll see what we will see, As somebody once said. Who? What multitude? LOL, as if... THAT remotely matters. [ February 21, 2007, 04:30 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]