howardb

Dar I think we all want CM to be a success but if we're to embrace reality I don't think that will happen (artistic success yes but in record numbers being sold no, my bet is that Starcraft has sold more copies than CM will). The thing is that regular numbers doesn't apply here because BTS are running a strict budget it seems and they're the one saying how many copies are a success and not. One of the reasons I want this game to be a success is mainly because they could hire some mercenaries so we don't have to wait for another 2,5 years for the next heheh (well most of the basics are already done now so it wouldn't take that long anyway).

I don't see the differece it makes wheather the shells goes this or that way. The shells are solid and wouldn't do any harm if they ricocheted into a cluster of infantry anyway. It brings up another question tho, namely how the aiming is calculated. If I save a game just before I'm going to shoot will each shot differ much from the other and if yes why ?

I don't mean that the AI should place my men only that the guys following this perticular HQ unit (or the units i've dragged a box around) should move forward in exactly the same distance that they were in to begin with. Something like in Close Combat. When I'm getting close to where I want them I can move them more precisely to this and that tree or house.

Hmmmm.. I always thought the Sturmmorser to be a haubits like the Brummbar. I'd post a picture of it if I knew how. How do u post pics on the site anyway ?

Infantry don't have smoke ???? Infantry were the guys that kept the tobacco industry above the water during WW2. Stupid irelander

Yes but I was more thinking about a schematic overview after the battle on all men involved, dead and alive. But then again I guess dead men tell no tales, unless they're just incapacited.

TSS: I won't argue about the Stg44 and AK47 but I think Lokesa has a point about ppsh41's. I've heard that if you dismantle the AK47 you'll see that much of the solutions in the weapons are the same as on the Stg44 (I've never opened either so I won't argue). However I don't actually think you would get very accurate fire over anything than 100m simply because the bolt's in ww2 halfautomatic rifles aren't good enough. They deliver a very different pressure to the chamber for each round fired (that's the main reason bolt action rifles are more acurate), add in the fact of wartime production and you won't get very acurate weapons I own a Sauer 200 STD myself it has 6 locks on the bolt compared to the 2 or 3 on the Mausser 98k to give you a comparison. [This message has been edited by howardb (edited 11-29-99).]

Dar I'm afraid CM wil NEVER be a big hit, not because it's not good enough but because it won't be found in shops everywhere. Just the fact that you have to order it and that there's no commercials for it will prevent it from being a hit. It will however be a hit among wargamers, a game which wargamers and wargamers alone will judge other games. The gfx is also a something that's being judged by the non wargaming crowd and while CM's gfx is ok it's not like Wargasm or anything like that. Gfx usually doesn't mean diddly (is that a word?) to wargamers (although we all want it) but it does to the man on the street. Anyway the average gamer doesn't want 100% realism because it's intimidating and boring. Intimidating that it shows him that he doesnt rule the game like he does Quake and boring that the guys doesn't fall like flies when he's opening fire. The action isn't fast paced enough simply because it's realistic. Wargames doesn't give you a quick fix either.. some games takes hours to finish and even days to learn (especially if you're not a wargamer in the first place). No to be frank I gotto admit if this was just a mediocre looking project I wouldn't gone through the work to buy it and get it sent oversea my self. I have currently not sent in my order tho because I'm waiting for some smart ideas on how we are going to save us that customs fee's, Steve ? PS. What do we actually get in the full version.. any manuals, cd's etc ? If we won't receive anything special why can't we europeans just download it from your site ? How many MB roughly will the finished product be ?

Thanks Moon I'll keep that in mind. I'm not more right than others but if I'm convinced about something it usually takes pretty hard evidence to change my mind (at least my gf says so).

I have no problems buying what Fionn said about the rareness of underbelly shot's and therefor it shouldn't be in the game. Speaking of hull down, I find it rather hard to put my tank so just the turret or gun appears to the opposing tanks even with the LOS tool because the LOS tool usually gives you a little hight difference. I really hope there will be a better way of setting up positions for tanks to avoid driving too far or to little in position. If you drive to little in position you can screw up that turn and if you drive to far... well you can probably forget about the tank for the rest of the campaign (maybe you'll get it back as an Ostwind some months later heh heh).

Saw an interesting documentary on Discovery about the making of support vehicles in the german army. All the badly shot up or vehicles that couldn't make it as first grade Tanks again they rebuilt as Wirbelwind, Ostwind, Tank Destroyers etc. The PkwIV chassis was specially popular. Anyone got any information on the Sturmmorser Tiger ? I heard it blew up 3 Sherms in one shot once.. (funny they didn't include in CC4 it's a real flashbanger product).

Most pple that saw his wreckage (Wittmann) tought it to be an airstrike so I'm going for that solution myself

But remember guys that for CM2 we all have T&L capable video cards (GeForce and soon others to follow).

I would also like a game that simulates Gröfas (the great corporal), when he takes a big sweep at a map "and take out this part of the front and attack here, here and here" while his generals looks in bedazzlement at him, "and the cowards in Stalingrad should wait until we relieve them".I wouldn't be on my own tho, no sir. I would have excellent advisors like Göring to name one. Maybe I'd start the medium and heavy Tanks production a year and a half earlier. Put the ME262 at least a year earlier in operational status etc. That would be cool. Anyone remember Storm Across Europe? That game so cool, I use to play it for ages. I remember playing a friend once. If you took out two VC points and paris all the men in france got POW's. He that slimy bastard went across the border with the entire BEF so I had to slaughter them all LOL, took me much more time.

Btw I think it might be 81mm as the germans didn't have a 88mm mortar shell

Reverendo: You'll find that out by checking the trajectory of the shells. If they're 100% straight then he's tossing them

No that was not a german tactic it was solely performed by allied fighters. I even think they used it on german Tigers. If I'm not mistaken I heard it on Discovery channel and it wasnt with bombs but with mg/cannon fire.

Ok.. hopefully that Tiger will be knocked out unless I own it Airsupport is actually very realistic so I'm glad it's in the game especially after d-day. If I'm not much mistaken that's how they lost most of their big tanks against the allies ? At least Wittman bought it that way.

Man I'm starting to see many familiar CC2 faces in this forum. Just saw RWCanuck which I've played a couple of times on the zone. Funny, looks like BTS is starting to get many CC customers.

Heheh.. now that was a well thought out post Blackhorse If your defending camping should be a plus if your attacking it's not wise, in meeting engagements you can try a mix... LOL. I can understand your concerns tho because you're still thinking in CC ways, I remember playing against someone called Blackhorse on the Zone so I know you used to be an avid CC player

Fionn: I know I got a picture of Hausser from after his injury.. I'll look into it. If I'll find it i'll scan it and post it. I'm actually more a fan of the eastern front than the western as I think that's where the real men fought heh heh. No seriously tell that to the family of the casualties of the western allies. How is the interest about the eastern front among americans? I got the feeling that only the grognards has an interest in the eastern campaign, I could be wrong tho.

Fionn: Hmmm... what can I say. You really should try to get a job inside a software house that makes you...no OUR type of games. It must be really cool to play a game and know you've had part of it, that they didnt pay you is strange tho. Like I said in another topic people that knows their history about WW2 is always interesting in my book. I just hope you haven't done anything stupid now that I'm going to ask you to make scenarios for us later on heh heh. Too bad CM isn't based on the eastern front then I would've had a scenario with Paul Hausser which is one my favourite generals, apart from Guderian that is. Do you know of any Forums with general WW2 talk btw ?

yeah well planes aren't exactly what this game is about but I think you're wrong or the pilots are lying. Don't ask me to document it because I can't I don't remember where I read it but maybe some others can ?

Don't worry Spy_eye I'm not angry or bitter on you. I don't find your behaviour at all abusive. The thing is you asked us what we thought of the game and when we gave you our answer politely I think you got a little mad Now weather Fionn is a reviewer or not I don't care about that doesnt go far in my book but he does know a lot about CM and WWII in general and that does in this forum. Let me point out that your opinions are worth just as much as any others here as long as you got something interesting to say Xyphorus: I said "should feel a responsibility" not has... see the difference

Fionn: Heh heh.. after that last post from Angels I think this will lead into a bad loop. Now it's time for that ignoring believe me LOL. Well that's the last from me on THAT issue I'm here to discuss CM & WWII anyway.