Rangoon Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I'm playing "The Screen Part 2" and I have a FIST-V (which I assume is my BFIST Bradley). He is part of a unit with a M1A2 SEP. Why does the BFIST have an X for matchup while the M1A2 has a +? The BFIST is dedicated to fire support, right? He has green C2 link to superiors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshal Blücher Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 How about the FO inside the BFIST? It should be able to call in fire from inside the vehicle, IIRC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangoon Posted August 10, 2011 Author Share Posted August 10, 2011 This one has no FO inside. Just the basic crew of the vehicle. I can't select anyone but the vehicle, unless I were to use the Bail Out command. My reading of the BFIST in the manual tells me that it's outfitted with technology that is geared toward calling fire support. What could be factoring against him? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Would the crew be trained to be FO's, or just driving the vehicle and one needs the FO for spotting? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangoon Posted August 10, 2011 Author Share Posted August 10, 2011 I suppose that could be. In the mission, I'm just supposed to place the vehicle in one of two locations. I guess the FO will arrive later in a limousine or something. But it's true; maybe the crew is just there to operate the vehicle and the FO will arrive for the next part of the mission. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ermolov Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 All crew members of a FIST-V are all 13Fs. They are all trained FOs. It is not like there is an MOS for 'FIST-V Crewman that is not part of the Fire Support Team' Just like the crew on M2s are 11Bs (formally 11Ms before B,M, and H were all combined) The vehicle commander of a FIST-V who has around 10 years of experience as an FO and is an SSG he is the NCOIC of the FIST, is more than capable of calling for fire. As well as each line platoon HQ should have an FO (SGT or high speed SPC) attached. Those are the guys that call the most fire missions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Your FO was not killed in an earlier mission was he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ermolov Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Your FO was not killed in an earlier mission was he? If there is a FIST vehicle it has a crew full of FOs. Everyone knows how to use the equipment, especially the NCO on the vehicle (he is the one who operates it anyways) A company's FIST team is made up of 6-8 13Fs and an Artillery Officer 3 of those are sliced out to the line platoons and the NCOIC, FIST officer (FO), and 2-3 joes to crew the vehicle. A FIST assigned to an armored company is a little different, as there are not FISTers sliced out to each platoon. If there is a FIST-V present, there is an FO present. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I am not sure what the problem is in your particular game, but normally a FIST Bradley, even without an FO team, can call in artillery fairly quickly, although a FO team inside the Bradley can usually call it in even quicker. I am currently playing "Cry Havoc" PBEM in 1.32 and the FIST/FO combination in there works fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 A long shot, but is the FIST-V suppressed or has it suffered any damage? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 It could be that CMSF is such an accurate simulation that it depicts the poorer education and talents of young people these days including crews of FIST who don't know how to operate their equipment efficiently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Yossarian0815[jby] Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I started a thread some time ago about the warrior mith the same capability. somebody did some testing. IIRC the vehicle did call in arty faster but it was a rather marginal effect. I think the range where these specilized vehicles really come into their own is way outside the size of CM maps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 ;1303835']I started a thread some time ago about the warrior mith the same capability. somebody did some testing. IIRC the vehicle did call in arty faster but it was a rather marginal effect. I think the range where these specilized vehicles really come into their own is way outside the size of CM maps. On the top of my heard for larger calibre artillery the difference of not using a FIST vehicle and one can be about 6 minutes. The fire mission called in by the FIST will also be more accurate, requiring almost no spotting rounds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryujin Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 with most of the FIST-Vs, spotting rounds are optional, you can usual call "emergency" and get good first round fire for effect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidFields Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 All crew members of a FIST-V are all 13Fs. They are all trained FOs. It is not like there is an MOS for 'FIST-V Crewman that is not part of the Fire Support Team' Just like the crew on M2s are 11Bs (formally 11Ms before B,M, and H were all combined) The vehicle commander of a FIST-V who has around 10 years of experience as an FO and is an SSG he is the NCOIC of the FIST, is more than capable of calling for fire. As well as each line platoon HQ should have an FO (SGT or high speed SPC) attached. Those are the guys that call the most fire missions. Excuse me. Just wandered in from CMBN forum. I keep coming over here to see if perhaps I could try CMSF. I have no experience with Modern Warfare. I find a paragraph like the above completely incomprehensible to me. Will the manual which comes with the game give me an understanding of "FIST-V", "13F", "MOS", "NCOIC", etc? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waycool Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Excuse me. I find a paragraph like the above completely incomprehensible to me. Will the manual which comes with the game give me an understanding of "FIST-V", "13F", "MOS", "NCOIC", etc? These are just terms (google is your friend ) Some are explained in manual on vehicle types. Modern acronyms for US ARMY FIST- V M981A3 FIST-V is a variant of the M113 FOV that is used as an artillery forward observer vehicle http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m981.htm NCOIC non com in charge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Commissioned_Officer_in_Charge MOS- occupation code and or trainings a soldier has see 13f for designation. 13f fire support specialist http://www.us-army-info.com/pages/mos/field/13f.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangoon Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 A long shot, but is the FIST-V suppressed or has it suffered any damage? Nope, not suppressed, no damage. He has good C2. I just don't understand why a specialized unit designed to call in artillery would have a red X matchup while the tank has a green + matchup. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Or shouldn't the FIST-V at least have a small + matchup if not a large +? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Do you happen to have a save game? It might be interesting to see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangoon Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 Do you happen to have a save game? It might be interesting to see. I can probably find one, yeah. Good idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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