A co Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I just played the Brit battle in the demo and enjoyed it thoroughly- and not just because I like to see new and colorful shapes moving around my computer screen. One thing I like is the way grenades bounce. In one case, some British troops on top of a ridge were throwing grenades at Syrians a few metres below on the steep slope. The grenades kept hitting the slope and bouncing around, usually then falling past the target and exploding harmlessly. Very cool visually and seemed realistic. Finally one did explode on target and ended the engagement! Later, a British team was in a similar position, wanting to clear Syrians off the slope from above. This time the Syrians, without being visible, threw two grenades up the slope and killed off the whole team. Very interesting to be reminded that you can get killed even if the enemy doesn't seem to have a good shot at you with small arms. Especially after CMX1, where I can't recall ever losing a man to grenades. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handihoc Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Yes, grenades are very cool, and realistically nasty, in this game. I had a situation with my inf section hunkered down behind a high compound wall. They knew there were enemy on the other side, but seemed to be safe behind the wall - or so I thought! In fact, they'd been spotted. Obviously the Syrians couldn't shoot through the wall, but they could lob grenades over, which is exactly what they did. I was both hugely impressed and profoundly miffed that my brilliantly executed tactic was nipped so effectively in the bud. War is horrible indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I didn't see it myself, but I recall someone reported seeing a soldier get shot in mid-throw. The grenade flips the wrong way and frags his own unit! :eek: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioman999 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The grenade flips the wrong way and frags his own unit! That seems to explain something I've noticed when assaulting a building. Often when I've issued Quick command to assault a building that has well suppressed enemies, the soldiers would go in and start throwing grenades. What I found confusing was that the assaulting units would get suppressed even though the enemy is not shooting back and getting fraged. Is this because they are being suppressed by their own grenade explosions?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSX Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 In my experience neither friendly small arms nor grenades kill my own forces. Has this changed or have I just been lucky? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomm Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Yeah, sounds like an urban legend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 In my experience neither friendly small arms nor grenades kill my own forces. Has this changed or have I just been lucky? You've been lucky. Small arms won't affect one side but HE does. Moral of the story - support infantry "target light" any buildings you're entering. "Target" means HE which will supress or kill your own guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsaw Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Other Means, you just got me thinking so I did a test. When this game came out I did a topic called "assaulting a building fierce and agile" (http://www.battlefront.com/community/showthread.php?t=82927) and there I used TARGET command, and never got suppresion or wounded from my own handgrenades. Now I did a new test with a marines unit and with FIRE you actuall get suppresion and KIA from your own grenade.... in the building complex next to it I did the same thing but with TARGET LIGHT and they thrown just as much handgrenades as the TARGET did, but no suppresion or WIA/KIA. Weird... must have been changed in a patch or so... I always use target light just to save on ammo so never noticed the change. /Thomas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Other Means, you just got me thinking so I did a test. The last time someone said that to me, I got a daughter TBH I think it's always been this way. I'm surprised grenades are thrown and even more surprised there's no suppression. Are you sure this is the case? If so, I'll raise a bug. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsaw Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 well to please you I can tell you im not pregnant (did the test) Give me a few, I will do some thourugh testing, before I just kicked up a scenario and did a quick test. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsaw Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Okey here comes a save game of the test. I had 4 squads. 2 marines and 2 Stryker squads. No1 Marines squad had TARGET No2 Marines Squad had TARGET LIGHT No1 Army Squad had TARGET No2 Army Squad had TARGET LIGHT Turns out its only No 1 Marines squad that uses TARGET that kills themself.. the No2 Marines didnt get suppresed and no causaltys. None of the army squads got suppresion or WIA/KIA. Somethings weird?___GRENADE TEST 001.ZIP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slug88 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Are you sure that when you're using target, it's the grenades doing the friendly killing, rather than LAWs or AT4s? edit: whoops, i see you just posted the save file. Will check it out myself. edit2: zip appears to be corrupted. Anyone else have luck opening it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsaw Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 the zip works for me... but after watching I see its the M32 thats doing the damage... when using TARGET the M32s fires, when they fire they frag one of their own... the squad that was on TARGET LIGHT didnt use their M32s, there the gunner throwed handgrenades instead. so its the M32 thats the criminal here... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Sounds like it's working but I'm surprised about throwing grenades. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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