Capt. Toleran Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Defense of Abu Gharib prison, look for the VBIED about halfway through, lots of similarities to CMSF (including the dust settling across the field from the VBIED). http://www.liveleak.com/player2.swf?token=97f_1187151890 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Dick Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 That's a cool video. I was in the AO when that happened. Our unit was involved in raids for the entire next month. The field near the highway, MSR Tampa, was littered with UXO's from dud RPG's and mortar rounds. [ August 15, 2007, 11:23 PM: Message edited by: Bradley Dick ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrykerPSG Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 The one thing that bothers me about these fly by night video makers, while over in theater, and being back now, watching their video footage, is simple. Why is the leadership not kicking them in the ass for not maintaining their assigned sectors of security or maintaining situational awareness? Note, while the camera is oriented where the action is initially, down a secure route, inside the FOB, once the VBIED goes off, they re-orient back outside the FOB to film the aftermath of the exploded VBIED. Hmmm, could that have been their primary area of responsibility? More then likely. Could that vehicle have been going for the wall and attempting to enter the compound? Who knows? Anyway, just being a zealot about the meaning of the General Orders we have to recite from basic training, about "Guarding everything within the limits of my post......" Call me a crusty ol 1SG, but I do not think the film maker deserves kudos, more like a court martial. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Dick Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 That wall is actually near a large field that faces the highway. It's the outer perimeter of the prison compound. The insurgents came from the direction of the highway and attacked the compound. So, the camera was not really pointed at the main attack. What's funny is.... These guys try to attack the prison and hopefully release some prisoners. Armored units then do raids for the next few weeks in the surrounding areas. We end up bringing all the prisoners to the same prison they attacked. I always got a chuckle out of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigduke6 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Call me a crusty ol 1SG, but I do not think the film maker deserves kudos, more like a court martial.Well, I'm sure that film maker's chain of command was really busy, fighting insurgents or drinking coffee in the orderly room or whatever. Just kidding. Being responsible for the behavior of a bunch of immature American teenagers can really be irritating sometimes...especially for their 1st Sergeant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Toleran Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 Here's another, from a firefight across a river: http://www.liveleak.com/player2.swf?token=3d2_1187272740 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudee Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 VBIED? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastttt Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Vehicle Based Improvised Explosive Device Originally posted by Rudee: VBIED? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Say "car bomb". Jeez, acronyms get really silly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Toleran Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 VBIED is shorter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigduke6 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Yeah, but "car bomb" is understandable to pretty much every one who speaks English, and it's less syllables. I have a rant simmering about how the military has come up with a whole new vocabulary to avoid Vietnam references, but it's a nice day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Dick Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 car(1) Bomb(2) V(1) BIED (2) Prounounced Vee Bid. Same syllables kinda like DFAC (dee fak) JTAC (Jay tak) BMP (Bimp) HMMWV(Hum vee) etc etc etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc237 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Is HOOAH, Who-AH, or houah 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Dick Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I think in basic training, it's hooo ah. By the time you've been in your unit a while, you get tired of saying "Yes, sergeant". So you say "Hooah" or "Roger, Sergeant".... but eventually Hooah becomes this sort of non-partisan grunt you can use to express many emotions. Sarcasm, anger, indifference, quiet rebellion, agreement, mockery, etc etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalbrew Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Smurfy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Capt. Toleran, I watched the video carefully and tried hard to make sense of it. Anyone who doubts combat is confusion should be required to watch that video repeatedly. About all I can tell is that insurgents attacked, fire was exchanged, quite a lot of it, and a VBIED was detonated. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Byte Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 You have probably seen this, but just in case... Helmet cam footage of firefight in afgahinistan..this is a bit different as the camera man is WIA...confusing to say the least. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7bRawHaE1s&mode=related&search= 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Mr Byte, Vastly better video quality; still can't see a thing! Definitely belongs in the British module! Did you notice the use of fingers relative to known directions to say where fire(?) was coming from? Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAding Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Originally posted by Bradley Dick: BMP (Bimp) A BMP is pronounced as 'Bimp'? I've been saying 'Beeee-ehhhmmm-peeee' all these years! Edit: Well, at least I've been saying that to myself. I don't think I have ever uttered the word to anyone in real-life. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNac Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Originally posted by JasonC: Say "car bomb". Jeez, acronyms get really silly. yeah man, all this VBIED IED and stuff. just f*cking bombs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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