Desert Dave Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share Posted June 18, 2007 Originally posted by n0kn0k: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Desert Dave: You said the PRODUCT itself was no damn good, Never mind... the delivery system. And yet, You HAVE ordered this one, If I am reading correctly, IE, "Good thing I ordered the digital download and the physical DVD." So. Now? Of a sudden? You are liking the products better Than you - once upon a time, Did? :confused: You can't be a critic without testing the product I don't mind spending the money, it made me a bit wiser again and my review supported my earlier views of Slitherine. [/QB]</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0kn0k Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 It's not about how much you earn, but how you spend it I love games and gamedesign, so I'd rather go without shoe-laces then games. And all Dutchies know the Beach Boys ofcourse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share Posted June 18, 2007 Originally posted by n0kn0k: It's not about how much you earn, but how you spend it I love games and gamedesign, so I'd rather go without shoe-laces then games. And all Dutchies know the Beach Boys ofcourse What, you slither into yer wet-suit, Paddle far out into The Nord See, Then! Shoot the curl, Walk the board, Back & forth, Hanging 9, Until! You hit... the dyke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0kn0k Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I'm living 300 mtr from a dyke hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 @Retributar --- So you're building a new office & things, eh? Very nice indeed, Kittycat, Cananda or wherever. I highly recommend buying a woodstove! That's the way I heat my house, it's the only way to live. I can send you some shots of how to live in style @DesertDave --- If you're in true need of a few bucks for food, clothing, & a KJV...let me know. Don't want to see you with a cardboard sign,"Vet in need". Despite what many don't do, I do. I give my change in the Honda away to those on the corner. And the rich man wouldn't even give the crumbs off his plate. @NoNookie --- So you're being logical about this new product, good idea, son. I've been to Glenhaven, Michigan to watch those Dutchies dance with woodshoes, ouch they hurt. You taken care of Europe until I visit? Might be a few years before that...but I might be in Israel in March. Beach Boys, that's old school. They've got "fun sound", maybe CEAW does too? I'm more about Elvis. Commander in Europe (At War) & Chief, -Legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Originally posted by Desert Dave: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />The Yogi: I'm not sure yet if I will spring for it or not. By the way, it will be $39 on NWS. Let us know if you spring Or don't spring. Many will be hanging on yer decision! </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0kn0k Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Originally posted by jon_j_rambo: @NoNookie --- So you're being logical about this new product, good idea, son. I've been to Glenhaven, Michigan to watch those Dutchies dance with woodshoes, ouch they hurt. You taken care of Europe until I visit? Might be a few years before that...but I might be in Israel in March. Beach Boys, that's old school. They've got "fun sound", maybe CEAW does too? I'm more about Elvis. Commander in Europe (At War) & Chief, -Legend Israel is pretty nice according to my mother, she was there for a few weeks some years ago. The airport guards with Uzi's were kinda scary though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributar Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 jon_j_rambo Thank's for the offer to send me pictures, sure!...i'll take a look at them, i'd really like to see them,...as i still have wood left over after clearing the property [in KITIMAT]!. By the way i gave most of the wood from the felled tree's to the neighbor's as i am now putting in a 'Geo-Thermal' heating system which will then compress [by mean's of a Compressor] the underground ambient heat from (~ Approximately) ~39F to ~160F [Even when its -20F outside in the Winter] which will then heat my 'Domestic Hot Water Supply as well as my Radiant Floor Heating Fluids]. Please send pictures to retributar@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P Wagner Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I for one am enjoying Commander and see it only improving with a patch or two, which happens to have been the same situation with SC1&2. And regarding the graphics, they used illustrations from the OSPREY line of WWII publications..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 @Retributar --- Ah, you have that hot water on the floor thing going on, I hear it works well. Nice job with the energy use. @TheWorld --- Don't worry about Global Warning & saving the seals. With Revelation #4 & beyond, everything is toast. Animals don't have souls & are under our domain. I won't save one animal until all the lost are saved first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottosmops Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Nice to see some feedback from SC players. I'm thinking of getting this one from NWS Online as well. I enjoyed SC a lot but never was able to get into SC2. It seems like there's a lot of potential in this new game and I look forward to hearing more comments/comparisons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 @DesertDave --- If you're in true need of a few bucks for food, clothing, & a KJV...let me know. Don't want to see you with a cardboard sign,"Vet in need". Despite what many don't do, I do. I give my change in the Honda away to those on the corner. And the rich man wouldn't even give the crumbs off his plate. Hey! Idaho Ivanho! Thanks for the offer, But, I'm gettin' by alright. :cool: Haven't - always, Then again, Who has? I ken appreciate that your offer Comes from a right Righteous heart, and You know - and I know what that really Means, but it seems some don't, well, That's alright too, but Them kind are often the very SAME (... IE, who don't LIVE here) Who ain't got a Sherlock clue What America was, is And ever will be... all about, neither. _____________________________ WRT all the fair-minded commentary About that OTHER game, well, Just goes to show The immense DIFFERENCE between SC Community And them other 2 I'd mentioned, Whoso seem to delight in trashing THIS game, and this game maker. Rare is the one At Smithereens or Matrix Who has given Hubert Much, if any CREDIT For gifting us all With that most amazing! editor. They ain't got no class, man. And so, I tell you straight, You ain't seen nuthin' yet! Just wait 'til you Get a glimpse of this next game And what you can do with That next Editor! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 @DesertDave --- Hey buddy, I'm not in the gaming mood right now...but I hear what you're saying. I'm feeling the need for ELVIS !!! This dude was cool, I love the foot work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Well I had a look and was not impressed at the graphics, even though these types of games are not all about graphics you can still (and should) do a decent job. What they did looks 5-6 years old. The features, all I will say is that I'll take SC2-WaW and its features over theres anyday as I feel it has more. It is hard to say they copied from other games as when you try to make a WW2 game that is in the "beer & pretzels" category you become limited on what you can do and you will HAVE to use stuff that already is out there because it has been done before... you simply have to try an innovate in a very small window, quite difficult. Finally, anytime a product of the same nature of SC2 comes out (Turn based, simplified game) I think it can only do that community some good as it increases viewer ship on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Blashy actually "sort of" makes a good point. The jury is still out on CEAW. Rather than pitting SC2 vs CEAW, just be glad there are more products in this genre. There's only so much newness that can be brought out. Seriously, was 3R really that good? Maybe in 1979 it was...NOT. I thought it SUCKED. Was Panzer General really that good? NO, you could smoke the A.I. with ease. SC1 was a blast. SC2 is a blast. (see current tense) CEAW is great. Wow, I actually sound diplomatic? Must be the married life mellowing the Legend. (don't believe that for a second.) I'd love to help settle the Palestinian & Israel conflict. -Legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZGungHo Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I've been checking it out on the forums, etc. I have to say some of it looks good, but I haven't bought yet because of some seems to be major drawbacks, PLUS I've got to save my dough for SC2-WaW! But I might in the future - maybe after the first patch? I agree though that another game on this subject can only be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
targul Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Bought the game last night verses my better judgement. Played it a couple times. It is very interesting. It seriously needs weather to be competitive verses SC2. Hexes are a huge improvement over SC2 squares. I hate squares. Hated them in Tactics II and still do. Thank you Avalon Hill for inventing the hex. Convoys are much more fun. Leaders are actually better still expensive but not as bad as SC2. Not sure what they do since I dont have the rule book but still I like there system on that. AI seems very competent. Comparable to SC2 but I will require more play time to know if either is actually better. There system for techs is different but equivalent. Units are much less expensive but that is good since there is much more land to control. It has both Strategic and Tactical Bombers but since I have only had Tactical dont know the difference. The combat system is in many ways better then SC2 the pushing back of units is really fun. I would say the game can be as good as SC2 but not without weather. The lack of weather doesnt give the tactical feel of WWII. It has a great Russian winter but other then Russia there is no weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang96 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I also got the game last night and i have to say it's really fun to play. I'm a little lost with some of the feature's. Should learn it better once i get the manual!I agree with you Targul, the game really needs more weather effects but overall it's a great game, which will only get better with some tweaks. I'm definitely not jumping off the SC2 bandwagon, can't wait for the new expansion to come out! Money's no issue when good WW2 game's are available! I just wish i have time to play them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Never mind [ June 20, 2007, 06:25 AM: Message edited by: Elmo ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 There's a demo for CEAW? I'll have to check it out. I'm still thinking about getting it but NWS Online price jumped from 39.99 to 54.99 so I'm pretty leery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I read mustang's post wrong and thought he just picked up SC2. No demo for CEAW that I'm aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted June 20, 2007 Author Share Posted June 20, 2007 I have read all contained in this thread, And, I have read all WRT to this OTHER game, At a couple other purely Fanboi sites. And so, I have changed my mind. I had originally said That I would pay $25.00 for it, Same as what Hubert had for SC-1. Now, Since I am a little better informed, I guess I'd now pay, oh, NO MORE than $19.95. Been playing almost all these WW-2 GS Games - board & pixel, Since we were introduced to Third Reich. That OTHER game is commercially exploitive JUNK. Same as Grigsby's serio-cynical rip-off. You guys that like it, well, You can have it. Yeah, yeah I hear ya. NICE! That we got another game in the genre, LOLOL! Like I say - maybe, Another year, Many & manifold patches, It MIGHT be worth $29.95. Those coy cats what made this thing Apparently, Can't hardly grasp The INTRICACIES of WW-2, Let alone - what makes ANY game ANY good. Too bad. Nice try, PITIFUL poor execution. [ June 20, 2007, 07:36 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0kn0k Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Well I've played a full game as Allies vs the "A.I.". If you even dare to call it an A.I. I beat the Germans back with the Frenchies and at the end of 1940 I'm invading the Ruhr area. After that a bunch of minors join Germany and when in oktober 1941 the Sovjets join it's over. But I could prolly win it win France alone at the easiest level :/ I was going around them in a huge circle with loads of corps units. - I beat up Africa without getting any response at all. - I evac all French troops from africa without an attempt at a takeover. The Italians just sit there. - Invasion of Sicily only one garison unit and no response. - German navy can be blocked at the canal with only 1 ship! - In the North about 5 ships will make sure that all your convoys will arrive, just make a chain and you will detect them all. - Subs are way too weak. - Also noticed a bunch of bugs with the terrain indications. Can only conclude that it's a pretty shallow game without: - diplomacy - hardly any meaningful decisions in research. You just dump as many as possible in research, plenty of cash to go around. - No weather effects except for an annual winter event in the east. Conclusion, it doesn't hold a candle to SC2, and I would be really surprised if anyone would switch from SC2 to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 They certainly won't switch when they get a load of SC2-WaW . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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