Kuniworth Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 D-day scenario, if you play on the easiest level allies dont land any units except some paratroopers. Played as axis until june 12th and still no landings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Oops, yes that is a script difficulty level read error, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtweasle Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 At the higher levels though they sure do know how to handle this scenario. Holy smokes! Was this scenario in the demo meant to only be played as Allied vs Computer? ...on the other hand it's possible that I really suck at this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Originally posted by Dirtweasle: ...on the other hand it's possible that I really suck at this game. I'm going with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 The thing is at higher levels they do A LOT more damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted April 6, 2006 Author Share Posted April 6, 2006 Originally posted by Blashy: The thing is at higher levels they do A LOT more damage. Yes Ive noticed. I find it hard as germans on beginner-level. Even if you annihilate almost or all allied forces their airforce will destroy your remaining forces. Im not sure I grip the way Axis can win this? Is it a time-limit or do I have to invade England to capture the cities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 No, you'll win if they run out of units. It is a difficult scenario to win as Axis. You need one big victory in one spot and that spot is hard to choose. If you get that victory, you can stay out of air range and play the attrition card. Basically if it ends in a stalemate for the Germans, it is a victory for Axis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Originally posted by Blashy: The thing is at higher levels they do A LOT more damage. Does the AI play better at higher levels or is it only an adjustment to combat/production or other factors? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtweasle Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I figured at first glance the only way to win would be to consolidate the Axis forces somehow. Only played with it for a while but so far no luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Im not sure I grip the way Axis can win this? Is it a time-limit or do I have to invade England to capture the cities? While I would still like to incorporate perhaps a Victory Condition screen... for now if you look at the cities on the map, those that have flags on them are considered the *objectives*. For Axis in Normandy your objective is to hold the positions with German flags while the Allies need to capture these positions. The level of victory is determined by essentially how many of these flags you hold and what if any Allied *flagged* positions you capture and vice versa. Specific victory conditions can be seen in the Victory.txt file in the Campaign Events folder for D-Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted April 6, 2006 Author Share Posted April 6, 2006 What worked for me was knocking out canadians and UK(HQ:s first) and retreat the heavy forces back from cherbourg towards your advancing forces. Leave some regiments behind to hold them up, but as soon as they clear cherbourg they will be to strong to take up a fight without hq and reinforcments. Wait for your forces from Caen to come up and then smash em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Does the AI play better at higher levels or is it only an adjustment to combat/production or other factors? Thanks. Currently there are 2 settings to increase AI difficulty. One is the 'Difficulty' setting and the other is the 'Experience Bonus' setting. The 'Difficulty' only affects plunder percentages as well as per turn collected MPP but since there is no plundering or MPP collection for this scenario (D-Day) it has no effect. In theory it could play better once more scripts are added as you could flag scripts to only be applied to a certain difficulty level but at the moment that is not applicable as all scripts are set for the default basic level of play. The 'Experience Bonus' simply gives the AI units more virtual experience and will essentially only make combat tougher, i.e. better AI attack values and better defence values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted April 6, 2006 Author Share Posted April 6, 2006 Hubert! Is there any way I can alter this script error myself so I can play the game? Regarding the objectives, I think it would be good to have a screen with info before the scenario reminding the player what he needs to do to win AND how long the scenario lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Kuniworth, If you play on the default difficulty level which I believe is 'Beginner' it should work as expected. Agreed on the objectives screen idea as this is something I wanted to do for initial release but unfortunately it got pushed back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted April 6, 2006 Author Share Posted April 6, 2006 Originally posted by Hubert Cater: Kuniworth, If you play on the default difficulty level which I believe is 'Beginner' it should work as expected. I know LOL just wanted to crush them allies with my panzer Lehr LOL Muahahhaaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin P. Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I agree on the objectives screen. If this is offered as a future enhancement I would like to see: 1. Victory conditions 2. Game length 3. Scenario Background - a short paragraph of text on the historical basis for the scenario - perhaps with a different paragraph depending on whether you are allied or axis. Example of Allied Text - "It is June 1944. The Russian are advancing in the East. General Eisenhower has ordered the launch of Operation Overlord, the Allied invasion of Europe. American, Canadian and British forces are under your command. Your mission objective is to sieze the towns of xxx,xxx, and xxxx before July 29th." Example of Allied Text - "It is December 1944. The Germans have launched a surpries attack in the Ardennes region of eastern Belgium controlled by American and British forces. Their goal is to reach the sea, trap four allied armies, and impel a negotiated peace on the Western front. Your mission is to stop the German advance before they can cross the Meuse River, the gateway to Antwerp and the Allied port supplying all Allied units in the region. You must hold the towns of xxx,xxx, and xxxx." [ April 06, 2006, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Edwin P. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted April 6, 2006 Author Share Posted April 6, 2006 Originally posted by Edwin P.: I agree on the objectives screen. If this is offered as a future enhancement I would like to see: 1. Victory conditions 2. Game length 3. Scenario Background - a short paragraph of text on the historical basis for the scenario - perhaps with a different paragraph depending on whether you are allied or axis. Example of Allied Text - "It is June 1944. The Russian are advancing in the East. General Eisenhower has ordered the launch of Operation Overlord, the Allied invasion of Europe. American, Canadian and British forces are under your command. Your mission objective is to sieze the towns of xxx,xxx, and xxxx before July 29th." exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justanotherwargamer Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Add Novice to the Oops category In both cases, Green and Novice difficulty level, the ground element and naval element just pack it in and go home. The special forces guys attack (pointless of course) and the air force does its thing (also pointless), but there ain't no invasion. Now if you want to see stomping, try Germans on Expert hehe. Man they get trashed fast. This game is looking better every time I reload the turn and watch a run through. Question (likely a dumb one) did the demo get beta tested? or just the full game? Just curious about the invasion gaffe, not that I expect anyone to actually play on pussy I mean Green difficulty setting hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin P. Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I like the developments in the Choose Side screen. Did any one notice that AI experience bonus is now 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2.0. Not just the 1 or 2 bars of old. It allows a lot more fine tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Question (likely a dumb one) did the demo get beta tested? or just the full game? Just curious about the invasion gaffe, not that I expect anyone to actually play on pussy I mean Green difficulty setting hehe. The demo is actually the same base code as the release version with just the noted restrictions. As for missing this, I guess none of us, myself included, bothered to test it on Novice or Green as we are such *Experts* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonslayer Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Originally posted by Kuniworth: What worked for me was knocking out canadians and UK(HQ:s first) and retreat the heavy forces back from cherbourg towards your advancing forces. Leave some regiments behind to hold them up, but as soon as they clear cherbourg they will be to strong to take up a fight without hq and reinforcments. Wait for your forces from Caen to come up and then smash em. I beat them pesky allies in a similar way. The HQs were the obvious first targets of my defence then pull everything back into cherbourg. Allies pretty much all dead by June 20th. Another thing to remember is save those MPPs for the most important units (but not the air units... they are a one/two shot deal) and don't waste the few air units you have... I used them to take out the last US HQ unit that just refused to die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justanotherwargamer Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I also found the Allied HQs were a bit vulnerable. First run through (beginner), they landed the HQs in what I thought were high risk locations (adjacent to enemy troops etc). I knocked one off with little effort. Granted, the invasion IS supposed to be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gérard Le Poer Trench Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I played at easiest and the allied forces landed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 You think the A.I. is stupid? Try playing some live opponents, they ain't so bright either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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